Inventory of and creating a Moto Guzzi V11 Scura owners list

[Danny-NL]

Hi all,

Let me introduce myself first since I am completely new to this forum.

My name is Danny, 52 years old living in The Netherlands and in the buying process of a beautiful Moto Guzzi v11 Scura (black). Very likely I will close the deal this week making me one of the 600 (proud) owners of the V11 Scura with number #S224. My new Scura (to be) was imported from Italy in 2011 and had officially 3 owners including the motorshop (TLM Nijmegen) where the Scura was traded in for another new motorcycle.

Because I am alway curious about the history of a bike, and the fact that the Scura edition was limited to 600 pieces, I would like to find out where all the serial numbers went to, how the distribution was done with regard to the various countries, how many of them in each country, who the owners are, which color the bike was painted in (fully black of black/bullet grey), which modifications they made etc.

Therefore I want to ask you (and especially the Scura owners) if you can help me finding this out, tips for where to look, addressing me to other Scura owners you might know, a contact in the factory in Italy, maybe you know somebody who already made such a list, etc. If interested I can share the Excel list here so everyone can get a good glimpse of the list.

I checked some YT movies already and got some info but most of the time the serial number is not very visible. There was even one that had the nummer S664 which is pretty amazing, because as far as I know, there were only 600 pieces made of the Scura version.

Hope to hear from you.

 

Best Regards,

 

Danny Hentenaar 

 

Edited September 16, 2024 by Danny-NL

[gstallons]

Danny ,  

I have seen only one and it was here in Ky. Lexington , Louisville or some big town in that area . This was around 2010 and I didn't know how exclusive they were . I did know they were righteous !

 W/O someone seeing this request , IDK how you would locate these bikes or their owners .

[docc]

2 hours ago, Danny-NL said:

Hi all,

Let me introduce myself first since I am completely new to this forum.

My name is Danny, 52 years old living in The Netherlands and in the buying process of a beautiful Moto Guzzi v11 Scura (black). Very likely I will close the deal this week making me one of the 600 (proud) owners of the V11 Scura with number #S224. My new Scura (to be) was imported from Italy in 2011 and had officially 3 owners including the motorshop (TLM Nijmegen) where the Scura was traded in for another new motorcycle.

Because I am alway curious about the history of a bike, and the fact that the Scura edition was limited to 600 pieces, I would like to find out where all the serial numbers went to, how the distribution was done with regard to the various countries, how many of them in each country, who the owners are, which color the bike was painted in (fully black of black/bullet grey), which modifications they made etc.

Therefore I want to ask you (and especially the Scura owners) if you can help me finding this out, tips for where to look, addressing me to other Scura owners you might know, a contact in the factory in Italy, maybe you know somebody who already made such a list, etc. If interested I can share the Excel list here so everyone can get a good glimpse of the list.

I checked some YT movies already and got some info but most of the time the serial number is not very visible. There was even one that had the nummer S664 which is pretty amazing, because as far as I know, there were only 600 pieces made of the Scura version.

Hope to hear from you.

 

Best Regards,

 

Danny Hentenaar 

 

Welcome, @Danny-NL!

There is an existing list in "V11 Registries".  Last updated in May, 2023, #224 is shown in England . . .

 

[Danny-NL]

48 minutes ago, docc said:

Welcome, @Danny-NL!

There is an existing list in "V11 Registries".  Last updated in May, 2023, #224 is shown in England . . .

 

Hi and thanks for the info. 

After posting I saw indeed that I'm not the only one who's curious although the last reaction is from a couple of years ago.

 

Since this is then the only (official) post for the Scura registry I can drop the question here I guess: How is it possible that numbers above the 600 pop up while the Scura is limited to this number 600? Did they create an extra batch of numbers because of it's success or is the story about it wrong?

 

Best Regards,

 

Danny

Edited September 16, 2024 by Danny-NL

[guzzigary]

Pretty sure the Scura production number was 700

 

[guzzi323]

1 hour ago, guzzigary said:

Pretty sure the Scura production number was 700

 

My recollection is Guzzi announced there would be 600 but they ended up making some 'extras'.

[Scud]

I suspect that the Scura is actually one of the more common V11 variants when you consider all the V11 variants available. The numbering seemed to increase demand. Similar thing happened with the Rosso Mandello. They made 300 numbered units. That was so popular that they made another 300 non-numbered units.

But it's all mystery of Italian manufacturing. So welcome to the ongoing speculative inquiry.

And enjoy the bike.

[Rox Lemans]

On 9/16/2024 at 7:48 AM, guzzigary said:

Pretty sure the Scura production number was 700

 

Did the number plates go that high, or did Guzzi merely make double number plates like Ducati did with their limited edition Sport Classics. I remember showing up at a ride in Connecticutt where 2 guys showed up with the same limited edition numbered bike. You remember the 1000 Sports that came in the black and gold? 

[docc]

12 hours ago, Rox Lemans said:

Did the number plates go that high, or did Guzzi merely make double number plates like Ducati did with their limited edition Sport Classics. I remember showing up at a ride in Connecticutt where 2 guys showed up with the same limited edition numbered bike. You remember the 1000 Sports that came in the black and gold? 

In our Registry, I see thirteen numbers reported above 600 including S699 in New Zealand. So, I reckon they actually numbered them all.

(Watching for confirmation from @Danny-NL to update S224 . . .

 

[David Konings]

Hi Danny, I’m Scura #608, located in the south-east of the Netherlands
Regards
David


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[Lucky Phil]

On 9/21/2024 at 3:20 PM, Scud said:

I suspect that the Scura is actually one of the more common V11 variants when you consider all the V11 variants available. The numbering seemed to increase demand. Similar thing happened with the Rosso Mandello. They made 300 numbered units. That was so popular that they made another 300 non-numbered units.

But it's all mystery of Italian manufacturing. So welcome to the ongoing speculative inquiry.

And enjoy the bike.

Thats why all this limited edition stuff isn't worth JS. To start with it's done by Italian manufacturers and esp back then they were pretty loose with their management of these sort of things and secondly the majority of the "specialness" was just cosmetic or things easy to add/update at a later time if the owner wanted to. Some exceptions exist like Ducati 1098R models which had sand cast crankcases and Ti rods in addition to the Ohlins suspension and carbon but mostly it's just a vaguely managed marketing exercise for people that get themselves convinced they have something "special/unique". Lose the numbered plate which has happened many times and it's never replaceable or even orderable and there go's your "special bike". It's just a modified stocker now.

I bought a Monaro CV8-Z 20 odd years ago that was a run of the "last of the Monaro's" limited to 1600 units which turned out so popular that after I took delivery of mine they decided to release another batch of 1400. Lucky for me I was going to buy one anyway and didn't jump on some bandwagon but as I said the special edition stuff is a "come in spinner" situation mostly.  

[Pressureangle]

6 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said:

Thats why all this limited edition stuff isn't worth JS.

I said the special edition stuff is a "come in spinner" situation mostly.  

Says the Daytona owner

Lemme remember some of gramma's platitudes

'Don't put taste in someone else's mouth'
'One man's trash is another's treasure'

The value in a Scura, a 1100 Sport, or a Daytona was never measured in money, but in the owner's life. That has never wavered.
Owning and riding MG, particularly older ones, lets a person know that even if you can't see it directly you share something deeper than Thursday night HOG club meetings.

[docc]

1 hour ago, David Konings said:

Hi Danny, I’m Scura #608, located in the south-east of the Netherlands
Regards
David


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#608 added to the Scura Registry!

19 minutes ago, Pressureangle said:

Says the Daytona owner

Lemme remember some of gramma's platitudes

'Don't put taste in someone else's mouth'
'One man's trash is another's treasure'

The value in a Scura, a 1100 Sport, or a Daytona was never measured in money, but in the owner's life. That has never wavered.
Owning and riding MG, particularly older ones, lets a person know that even if you can't see it directly you share something deeper than Thursday night HOG club meetings.

                     This reminds me of a John Ruskin quote,

"The highest reward for a man's toil

is not what he gets for it,

but what he becomes by it."

[Lucky Phil]

28 minutes ago, Pressureangle said:

Says the Daytona owner

Lemme remember some of gramma's platitudes

'Don't put taste in someone else's mouth'
'One man's trash is another's treasure'

The value in a Scura, a 1100 Sport, or a Daytona was never measured in money, but in the owner's life. That has never wavered.
Owning and riding MG, particularly older ones, lets a person know that even if you can't see it directly you share something deeper than Thursday night HOG club meetings.

I think you have me confused with someone else. I don't own a Daytona I own a mishmash bike that started as a Greenie and now has zero value to anyone even vaguely interested in originality or "numbers"

A particular motorcycle brand has no particular emotional connection to me other than a technical interest and the obscure idea that I happen to like that piece of machinery. They are machines and thats it basically. I like some more than others. They have no real "meaning" in my life, just a way to express my engineering interest. Nothing more. 

Phil

Edited 1 hour ago by Lucky Phil

[Pressureangle]

Just now, Lucky Phil said:

I think you have me confused with someone else. I don't own a Daytona I own a mishmash bike that started as a Greenie and now has zero value to anyone even vaguely interested in originality or "numbers"

Phil

Even more to the point then, it seems you're quite proud of it, despite being a mongrel. Or perhaps *because* it's a mongrel. Why is it different, how you feel about yours, and why, and for others about their own?