Relay question...yes, another one.

[activpop]

I have Tyco (made in Portugal) relays in my Coppa. Where do they fall on the scale of reliability compared to a Picker or Omron? These were the stock ones is my guess. I've got a bunch of Pickers I could replace them with.

[gstallons]

IDK for sure. you should look for some NOS Omrons or glean back through the posts and see what is the suggested relay #s.

[activpop]

I've done that already.  Couldn't find any mention of Tycos. I pulled all of them to Deoxit the contacts.

[audiomick]

1 hour ago, activpop said:

I have Tyco (made in Portugal) relays in my Coppa. Where do they fall on the scale of reliability ...

 

I searched "Tyco" using the forum search function. Amongst many others, this came up from @docc

Here's the list of hits from the search. Have a look. I think you'll be shopping for relays soon. 

https://www.v11lemans.com/forums/search/?&q=Tyco&quick=1&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy

[activpop]

Thank you @audiomickfor digging that up for me. Very good info! I will switch them out today. I have the new ones teady to go.

[docc]

Pickers     Tycos 

edit: Pretty sure Seimens Siemens were original across the V11 range, most certainly on the early Sports 1999-2001.

[gstallons]

Are you fixing something or is this to prevent something ?

[activpop]

4 hours ago, gstallons said:

Are you fixing something or is this to prevent something ?

Just trying to nip things in the bud.

Edited July 7 by activpop

[GuzziMoto]

On 7/7/2025 at 3:02 PM, docc said:

Pickers     Tycos 

edit: Pretty sure Seimens were original across the V11 range, most certainly on the early Sports 1999-2001.

Siemens (yes, this is the correct spelling, I would know...) relays were what the wife's 2000 V11 Sport came with. And they failed her within the first month. Turned the bike off at a gas station and it would not start back up.

[docc]

The first thing my dealer did after I bought mySport new was send a larger (still Siemens ) relay for the front/start position. This was early 2000 and the under-rated relay issues were already showing up.

[Pressureangle]

I haven't reviewed the relays on the 2000 v11 yet, but my '97 1100 Sport had Tyco 3 relays, and as reputation demanded failed in the high heat of Daytona traffic. Fine again on the ride home, so obviously marginal in normal operation. I grabbed a handful of oem Omron at the junkyard, they were oem in many Jeep products and low mile wrecks are (were) abundant.

[docc]

1 hour ago, Pressureangle said:

I haven't reviewed the relays on the 2000 v11 yet, but my '97 1100 Sport had Tyco 3 relays, and as reputation demanded failed in the high heat of Daytona traffic. Fine again on the ride home, so obviously marginal in normal operation. I grabbed a handful of oem Omron at the junkyard, they were oem in many Jeep products and low mile wrecks are (were) abundant.

Are the three 1100 Sport-i relays cube (square top) "mini" relays while the five V11 relays are 1/2 cube (rectangular top) "micro-ISO" ?

[gstallons]

I think that is correct !

[Pressureangle]

On 7/11/2025 at 3:55 PM, docc said:

Are the three 1100 Sport-i relays cube (square top) "mini" relays while the five V11 relays are 1/2 cube (rectangular top) "micro-ISO" ?

No, the 'Sport has 4 micro relays, same as used in the V11

1997, dunno if it changed from previous years.

[docc]

1 hour ago, Pressureangle said:

No, the 'Sport has 4 micro relays, same as used in the V11

1997, dunno if it changed from previous years.

Yes, the injected 1100 Sport-i would have at least one more relay than the earlier, carburetted, SPOrT 1100. 

The V11 has separate relays for the ECU and FI/coils. Plus the Start Relay and the "Headlight" Relay that handles pretty much everything besides the FI/ECU.

The fifth (middle/#3) relay of the V11 Sport/LeMans is the "Sidestand"/ Neutral Relay. Not sure how the 1997 1100 Sport-i handles that function (preventing start-up in gear with the sidestand down).