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The Texas Motorcycle Museum in Johnston City has a Daytona RS and other Guzzi oldies on display!
This was the first time I found the museum open.
Who knew you could actually look at Moto Guzzi Daytona RS in the flesh....
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1 hour ago, Chuck said:
I've done a 1300 mile trip on a Quota, and my statement of "one of the best touring bikes Guzzi ever made" stands..
I am not going to ride it back at this time. I have that "Texas ProRider" safety course on Sunday the 3rd, and I would never make it back on time.
I am looking forward to discovering it. I would have liked it red, but I feel myself lucky to even find one in a short span of time after missing on two that were right around my alley.
I hope the clutch does not require too much force to actuate.
Do you know if the force required to clutch is more than for the V11? The QUOTA is cable actuated, so I am expecting it to be harder than my Le Mans. I have arthritis in my left hand, so each actuation is painful. I easily get by when I don't ride in places with too much traffic stops.
However, if I am in heavy traffic, with a hard clutch, I have to stop...
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Here's how it looks on the add; the current owner has the stock muffler too.
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I am flying to Boise tomorrow to check the bike out!!!!
I am completely psyched and all "gaga"....
Thanks @KINDOY2 for bringing it to my attention!!!
If I purchase it, I will let it there until I can ride it back home. This is going to be so much fun.... 1850 miles on a Guzzi....
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I got back from a 620 miles trip last Friday, the 26th of May.
Up to now, I averaged about 44 mpg while cross country. In the city, around 40 mpg.
For this trip though, I averaged 46 mpg. I am still to refuel since I came back. Once I do, I will post the details under Motorcycle Grand Tour of Texas 2023.
I have so far scrupulously refueled at the 150 miles mark.
However for this trip, I decided to push my refuels further. I have ran longer intervals, getting closer to 200 miles.
Now this may not be a reference you can trust; when I am on highways, I tuck myself behind the screen of the Le Mans. But when I don't, in the city, I get better mpg than 35. Close to 40 mpg.
If this can be a clue, I run the V11 at optimum torque. I am very conservative.
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On 5/23/2023 at 4:35 PM, KINDOY2 said:
FYI
I'VE BEEN SEEING THIS ADD SINCE LAST SUMMER......
https://boise.craigslist.org/mcy/d/boise-2000-moto-guzzi-quota-1100es/7622181978.html
The listing says 11 days old, but you never know.
Boise is just around the corner from Houston (
); who's never dreamed to do a 1850 miles trip on a QUOTA?
Let's see if someone answers.
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46 minutes ago, audiomick said:
Yes. Very pretty. I still want one.
Some interesting photos here (sorry it is on facebook...):
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=590441511059419&set=gary-thomas-at-bathurst-1979
Play it loud....
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2 hours ago, LaGrasta said:
I once owned a 2014 Honda CTX1300, V4, shaft drive. Power was similar to the V11, but not as good, felt too heavy.
I drove a Kawasaki KZ1300 back in the 80's; you remember? the 6 cylinder water cooled shaft driven.... 710 lbs it was truly a heavy bike. However the music coming from the engine helps you forget the weight.
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Did too... when we had that conversation about ladies on motorcycle. It is in a thread somewhere in this forum;
When I was dreaming about riding long distance, I purchased the "Une Demoiselle sur une Moto" (Girl on a motorcycle) written in 1973 by Anne-France Dautheville.
In that thread, someone suggested "The Perfect Vehicle".
She depicted pretty well what the past used to be, and to some extent, the present for us aging V11 enthusiasts. However most of the new generations are never going to get it first hand. The secret pleasure of riding a motorcycle is vanishing fast. We are still somewhat perpetuating it, but it is fading.
My 27 years old son never understood that craving. No matter how hard I tried to pass it on. When I attempted to depict the derived intense emotions of riding, he just did not connect with it.
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Aren't we all habit's creatures?
The way I look at it, I want to try as many as I can, to find out if I am able to distinguish what is tagged to have better performance.
With the mileage I am putting out while doing the Texas Tour, I can justify poking around to find out what I think suits the V11. I shall hit 30k miles by year end.
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On 5/24/2023 at 7:18 PM, docc said:
The Bridgestone Battlax T32 is serving me well, in the GT spec . . .
YMMV, literally . . .
When you look at the peanuts difference between those tires' performance, there is no bad choice here.
They did say though, the Michelin braking performance is affected because it is the only tire that triggers the ABS extremely early in the test. As we know the ABS helps in control and not in braking performance.
Just out of curiosity, I looked at the prices and availability using Revzilla;
The Metzeler Roadtec 01 are ALL out of stock. There are the cheapest.
The Michelin Road 6 are the most expensive.
Some of the GT versions of these tires were not available.
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Motus designed two motorcycles based on a V4 90degrees, push-rods, two valves, 1650 cm3.
The MST 165 hp, and the MST-R 180 hp.
Motus beat the pushroad production speed at 154.76 mph (249.06) and did even better at 165.85 mph the following day.
Unfortunately, Motus lost their investors in 2018, a few months before the commercialization of the motorcycles.
A 4 cylinder V twin made in the USA... that would have been cool, no?
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In the current issue of Moto Magazine, www.motomag.com, the BMW R1250RS, Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello S and Yamaha Tracer 9 were put through their paces.
Their format is to bring a non professional rider amid the journalists.
The Moto Guzzi held its own pretty well.
The classification was as below:
Styling: Moto Guzzi
Ergonomics: Yamaha, Moto Guzzi; mainly because the reach to the bars.
Engine sound: Moto Guzzi
City usage: Yamaha, Moto Guzzi; because of its turn radius.
Dynamism: last;
Pillion: last
Engine: deuce
Electronics: Moto Guzzi
Braking: Moto Guzzi/BMW
Here's what they say:
Pro:
-engine output
-global comfort
-driving and performances
Con:
Suspensions a bit firm, turn radius in city, active aerodynamics not useful, front a bit heavy when driving fast in tight curves.
Here's the results:
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I received the latest issue of Moto Magazine, and there is a comparative test of six tires designed for Sport-Tourism motorcycles, such as the V11;
- Dunlop Roadsmart IV
- Pirelli Angel GT II
- Bridgestone T32
- Metzeler Roadtec 01 SE
- Continental Contiroadattack 4
The test took place at the Goodyear Mireval track in France. It used to be a racing track purchased by Goodyear and transformed into a tire test track for all kind of vehicles. This track has multiple asphalt quality and a "wet" loop.
The testing was conducted with a Yamaha Tracer 9, one of the motorcycle used for a sport-tourism comparative test with the Moto Guzzi V100S, BMW R1250RS, results will come in a separate post.
Each tire sets was ran for two laps on the fast track, length 6.6 km. When the tires are manufactured, they are covered with a thin layer that facilitates their removal from the molding machine;
The braking tests were measured with a VBox Sport from Racelogic, using GPS data.
In the dry, for each tire the speed was set to 125 km/h, and the braking distance measured between 100 km/h until 5 km/h.
In the wet, the set speed is 90 km/h and the braking distance measured between 80 to 5 km/h
Maneuverability was checked; the Goodyear track has all kinds of tests to verify how easy the motorcycle respond to impulses. Also, behavior on wet asphalt such as fast, slow curves, banked curves, skidding under acceleration, stability.
Now we need to keep in mind that the braking results on the Tracer are carried out using the ABS, I don't really know how it translate on our V11.
Find the results of the test herewith:
-The top performance was given to the Dunlop Roadsmart IV, the second best was the Pirelli Angel GTII;
Some of these tires have a GT version for heavier motorcycles and SP for Sport roadsters. I believe the V11 can use the standard version.
Note that all the tires tested are manufactured in Europe and Japon for Bridgestone.
Michelin is the only manufacturer to have dual compound for the front and rear tire. All the rest have dual compound rear tires.
Again, one important aspect of tires is never measured: average autonomy.
I am currently on ROAD 5, since the ROAD 6 were not not in stock. The Roadsmart IV neither earlier this year. Only the Roadsmart III was in stock.
The Roadsmart IV is given as the best in terms of maneuverability and stability.
Something that I have been told; the Tires we purchase in the USA are not coming from Europe. It should not make any difference in terms of quality though...
I am completely happy with my Road 5, and will attempt to install Road 6 at the end of year. Then I will check the Roadsmart IV at the end of 2024.
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58 minutes ago, cowtownchemist said:
Thanks Samdroid, I will double check voltages at the battery later tonight to confirm. P6x, that Quota ES tach does look identical, but for that price I'd rather go for the modern Speedhut version.
There is the "make an offer" button enabled, you may be able to get it for less, but probably not less enough to make it a better alternative. This was just in case you wanted to keep your V11 as before.
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Would a QUOTA ES Tachometer work for you?
Check this out on ebay.it. There are other QUOTA tachometers for sale too.
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2 hours ago, audiomick said:
For what it is worth, that is not just lithium batteries. Some types deal with it better than others, but all batteries deliver less power when they are cold.
True, but Lithium batteries are particularly affected by low temperatures.
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In the oilfield industry, we started to experiment with chemistry in batteries from the 80's.
The Lithium batteries came out eventually late 80's early 90's. They outclassed any other chemistry type in terms of autonomy, however they were known for being poor performers at cold temperatures, difficult to put out if catching fire, and less known to the general public, if stored for long time without use, to develop a passive layer around the anode preventing high amp draw at start.
Today, Lithium batteries are used in vehicles, planes; they have probably improved on some of the earlier drawbacks, but as far as I understand, cold is still an adverse factor.
I have conventional batteries in all my vehicles, including my V11. I have seen Lithium fires, part of the training from our main battery provider, and while they don't happen often, they are impossible to put out without specific means. A Lithium battery fire would salivate at the perspective to involve your V11 plastic gas tank...
In cold environment, we had to "warm" the batteries before they could deliver up to their normal specs. For that, we had a contraption connected to the battery, that would draw current through various resistors until the battery became fully "primed".
I am curious to understand how well your V11 Lithium battery performs in the cold, in situations when you have not used the motorcycle for several days, weeks?
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19 hours ago, Speedfrog said:
How about the V85 TT? It seems that it would have all the attributes of the Quota but in a more modern and reliable version. It's been reported to satisfy a lot of owners/riders out there.
I agree with you. However, it is too modern for my taste.
I like old machinery; even if its not helping in the reliability department. I am still too sore to have missed on those two QUOTA to think about anything else.
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15 minutes ago, guzzler said:
I love the V11 for it's classic lines!
You nailed it right on the head.
The V11 is respected in its various livrées. G&B are certainly recognized Guzzi artists, however the V11 does not need any add-on to be a looker. Everyday I take it out, I feel special and accomplished.
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On 5/15/2023 at 4:59 PM, PJPR01 said:
One thing to bear in mind P6X is that the Stelvio, particularly the NTX version which has the larger 8.5 gallon gas tank aside from being heavier, will also be a lot more top heavy. Maneuvering it around will require more strength/caution than the V11. But both the Norge and the Stelvio have great carrying capacity and are fantastic for long distance journeys.
I am aware of that fact; this is one of the reason I thought the QUOTA would have been ideal, however ultimately, its autonomy was about the same as the Le Mans.
There is a Stelvio in Conroe, but it is a 2009 model. It only has 4000 miles. The owner explained to me that he purchased it about four months ago, but realized that he was a BMW GS more than a Stelvio Guzzi guy.
I asked him about the roller tappets and he said he has no clue if this was done or not. It has the smaller tank, he wants 7500 for it. He also has the crash bars which are not installed.
The bike looks like new, he is not the first owner. He is on vacation at present, but he offered me to come to check it. The color is fine, but the distribution enigma is a show stopper. I don't want to go there, take out the top cover, and find out that it needs to be overhauled. He did not know about it before, I don't want to be the one bringing the bad news, and I don't want to purchase a bike that needs to be modified. That, and the CARC requires a look into.
I can't go there and tell the guy that his bike is more in the $5,500 range than the $7,500; he seemed nice.
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11 hours ago, Joe said:
Didn't the Quota's run different fueling than the V11 Sports? What was the horsepower? Upright seating position has to be more comfortable than the V11 Sport/Lemans.
The key to the QUOTA fueling, although not without hiccups initially, is that it did not have to satisfy to the European Emission rules, that were enacted in 2000.
70 HP and 85 Nm of torque.
That is for the 1100 ES; the 1000 was 71 HP and 81 Nm of torque. Not much of a difference;
I have read a lot of material about the QUOTA, and it seemed to have suffered from the same illness as many EFI Guzzi. Unrefined EFI in its first iteration, but with quick remedy from the aficionados.
The V11 Le Mans is extremely comfortable, if you ride it like I do. I lean on the tank, and I use my knees to support my arms. The windscreen preserves me from wind noise. I also use my left hand to support my helmet, so my neck muscles are not solicited that much. There is one exception to that idealistic description. The legs; the foot pegs are too high. Longer legged individuals will feel it quickly. There is nothing you can do to alleviate it.
Today I went to check the RE Himalayan, but this is not a bike that can strive in Texas. With a top speed of 70 mph, which basically the minimum speed people drive on highways here, it would be unsafe.
Yes, that QUOTA would have been ideal.
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I have been loosely considering the purchase of a Stelvio to supplement the Le Mans when necessary. Although it seems less now than it used to be. However in 2021 and 2022, I have experienced some issues that impaired my planned rides.
Anyway, there is a Stelvio thread, and I discovered the QUOTA 1000, and 1100 ES; decided to switch my interest to that instead.
Would you believe that I found two QUOTA for sale, both based in Texas, both sold moments before I could get to them....
Talking about bad luck....
The second one was ideal, because red! but as soon as I contacted the seller, she said the bike had already sold, and switched the "Available" for SOLD!
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Motorcycle Grand Tour of Texas - 2023 Edition - Tour stops report -
in Meetings, Clubs & Events
Posted
Updated the repository for the 5 stops made last Friday, May 26th;
I have also created a topic with pictures of the Moto Guzzi Daytona RS which is hosted at the Texas Motorcycle Museum in Johnston City.