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Jaap, you are a 'graphic-arts' man. You can do better than any of us . Just surprise us with an awful stunning bike. As far as I can see, you will add shiny things like the Ohlins things, the OZ racing wheels, ... Ooh, what colour are the wheels now?

Great job, Jaap! looking forward to see this bike in real. See U in Mettet! Do you have any idea how many Monza kits were already sold? I mean, how many of these bikes are on the road? Looking at the price of the kit (waywayway too expensive in my opinion) they must be pretty unique.

if you're going for 9000rpm, go for Carillo's!

Please do not paint those expensive and beautiful rims!!! Sell them, get yourself another set less expensive wheels to paint. This is just my opinion. @Raz: we are talking 'bout OZ Racing wheels. There is no press fitted steel tube in the center. If you remove the bolts of the shaft you can easily remove the very lightweight alu tube. And the angled valve stems are genuine mounted. As I said, beautiful rims!

All rightie JM we'll meet the 5th of july @ Mettet. Taking the ST to the track or the Nato Could be fun too

Actually I'm not such a great fan of these cans but, I have to admit, they work fine. minus-points to me are: they are damn loud

The carbed Sport's rear wheel was 18" with a 160/60. From the Sport i there were 17" mounted. I remember the difference between the Sporti (160/70-17) and the Daytona RS (160/60-17). With the length of the rearshock, similar in all cases (280mm), the Daytona was less heigh at the rear which resulted in poorer driveability. When they swapped that rear 160/60 to a 160/70 the problem was gone. The V11 is even lower than that Daytona RS with a rearshock length of 276mm. So I think the problem should be looked after there.

On Daytona frames, the shock is mounted on the frame with alu plates. So with different (home made) alu plates you can change height very easy. On V11 frames, as on the 1100Sport frame, the shock mount is welded to the frame. So without a larger shock it's much more difficult to create a higher rearend. I have my shock personally made by Ohlins, 288mm eye to eye.

Please don't beg I think all the specs of my bike has already passed by on this forum. I didn't reply instantly to your post because this is not the topic to do. If I'm excused, I can tell a little about it, topic related. To start with, it's not a V11, but it's precursor Sport 1100 bought brandnew in 1995. I loved the bike and still do. I always found the riding abilities of the Sport pretty good, solid, reliable. The only handicap was it's engine performance. I had to compeed with guys with much faster bikes and my previous bike, a tuned 850 Le Mans was almost faster! So the engine specs went from 77 to 94 rwHP with thanks to my dealer who always raced Guzzi's. The engine mods stayed in the reliable zone. With +100.000km nowadays I can only confirm. But the bike was hard to ride, and when pushed hard I felt it had to lose some weight. I couldn't! I'm barely 65-70 kg! Eliminated all the stuff from the tail to the center of the bike. Mounted lightweight fairings. But in that case I lost some balance in the bike. It didn't feel the same way. It went on and on until I quit riding it on the streets. I had lost that reliable feeling. I almost sold the bike at that moment. As I was doing some trackdays all over Europe now and then, I realized a racing Guzzi would be my goal. Further improvement had to be made and I swapped the heavy wheels for the lightweight OZ Racing, the Ghezzi-Brian, wheels. Hey! The balance returned. So the lesson learned was not to take much weight from the bike if you don't deal with the unsprung weight. That was the biggest improvement. Now I started chopping the bike. Everything that wasn't necessary to ride had to move. Other heavy stuff was replaced with lighter alu or carbonfibre. I gained more than 40kg! But the bike was still long and hard to push around a narrow corner. Thanks to Jihem from the forum I was offered an Ohlins front. What a relief. Those narrow corners were suddenly a piece of cake. In addition I changed the steering head from 26° to 24°, 30mm offset instead of 45 with thanks to Paul M. for the information and parts (WP Roma yokes). Nowadays I'm dealing with a bad rearshock. That is still the original WP 280mm example. Too short for the changed geometry translated in understeering. I have already bought a 'wrong' Ohlins here on the forum and I'm still waiting on the Ohlins dealer to get this done. I guess the used rearshock is also the cause of the different wheelbases on the V11. They use 270mm (SACHS), 280mm (WP) or a 286mm (OHLINS). I guess a longer shock, a higher rearend, a shorter wheelbase. Also when I swapped from the 160/60-18 tire to the 180/55-17 I lost a full cm ridehight. To compensate this I dropped the forks but it made the bike way too low. It's a never ending story, you know. If I only had time and money...

I do understand you all. Well, actually I don't but I don't care. There are all kinds of motorcyclists and all kinds of motorcycles. One more interesting than the other. I love 'm all but I won't chat or start a discussion to the owner of an average, normal, right out of the shop motorcycle. But when I see a racing Guzzi, my heart starts beating louder, eyes getting wider. And here I'm not talking about a shiny Rizoma mirror or other hanky panky shit. It's a passion. A warm feeling inside, when enthousiasts, here I'm not talking about 'motorcycle owners' but 'motorcycle enthousiasts', try to make a Guzzi work better, go faster. It will never be the fastest and lightest. But you can go a long way and enjoy that bike for years and years, never getting tired of it. If you ride a bike like that, you understand. If you don't, you will never understand how a Guzzi like that feels. Well, all of that just to show my sympathy for the enthousiasm of the topic starter. Go for it. Oh, I can give you some numbers of my bike; 1995 Moto Guzzi 2 valve - ±160 kg dryweight (51 front - 49 rear ratio) - ±94 rearwheel HP (1064cc) Believe it, that rocks! Would I ride a basic, original Guzzi again? I don't think so!

The dimensions of the V11 shock won't be found. No other bike uses a 275 (in case of the Sachs) or 285 (in case of an Ohlins) mm short example. Other problem is that most bikes are using link systems. The Guzzi is a simple type, meaning shock is connected directly to swingarm. Talk to an Ohlins Service Center. They can make it. I have found that place in the Netherlands, ROOSKE can make anything you need or want and his service is TOP! Some months ago is bought an Ohlins here on the forum from a guy you all know. Sold as an V11 shock it was actually a '93 Triumph Trident shock, way too long (320mm), completely different mounting eyes, no compression adjustment (an emulsion type) so I could not use it. Worse, I couldn't get my money back and nobody in the world was waiting for an Ohlins for an old Triumph Trident!! I was almost desperate until Rooske proposed to transform that shock in a suitable V11 shock (well, I'm still waiting for it because he knew I had already payed a lot for revision of the original WP shock, which didn't suit me at all, payed a good price for the Triumph Ohlins and was out of cash. He asked me some time so he could make it for the less of money.) Another place where you can try is LANCI SUSPENSION. There are some rebuild second hand shocks on their website. Worth giving it a try. Succes

I just could not believe those numbers so I tried the Honda website. These numbers are more believeable for the 1000cc naked; 125HP @ 10,000 100 Nm @ 8000 217 kg I have chopped my Guzzi to a 88kg front and 87kg rear, fully loaded with oils and fuel. But that is of course not a streetlegal Guz. If you do the same to a Ducati you end up with a 145kg racer. So the guzzi is indeed very heavy!

Lovely, sittingbulle! awesome bike!

That's the way to go, Charles! Thumbs up for your project. I believe the late Le Mans 1000 gearing was the highest (primary 18/23, gear 27/19)

Looks like the alu Krüger&Junginger swing. Paul must know, Paul? And the orange framed bike is from a friend of mine. He started the project because he had a spare California III engine.

It is. You just need a 5,5 rim and eliminate the bushing between bevel box and swingarm, placing the bevelbox more to the right, and remove the cover of the joint on the bevelbox.

Those lines match! Very very nice tail.

That's without fairing like seat, tank and frontfairing. Very possible indeed. My bike is 370 lb complete ready to race. With alternator and starter and a full fuel tank it was weighed at 401 lb. I even remember a British Guzzi racer (rider was Torquil Ross Martin) of 330lb. So he told me.

Like a raging bull!!! Many short stroke racers get these numbers. I'm more concerned about the compression ratio 12,5:1 !! That's suicide! Just read this on the i-net: John Wittner is in the process (august 2008) of restoring his original AMA BOTT racer which will be for sale when he is finished.

It's not a summertime-cruiser! It's a Guzzi battleship.

Molto grazie, Jaap! I've been looking for years for an article like this about the prototype of our beloved Sport derivates.

http://www.ohlins-rooske.nl/ I met the man at the Ducati Club Races at Assen last year where I was dealing with a terrible working WP shock. I told him the WP was recently serviced at WP Benelux but every bend at the track I had the feeling I wasn't going to survive. He looked at the bike and to me in a sudden way and took the shock home (as he had no tools with him for WP shocks). He serviced it again ... for free. I never spend a dime to the man but he kept on answering my suspension related questions. Even worser, finally I bought a second-hand Öhlins (thanks Antonio) instead of the double priced new one. I mailed him about that but he answered he would have done the same thing! Two thumbs up for that man!

I've been talking and mailling to an Öhlins specialist in the Netherlands for quite a while. Getting a brandnew V11 rearshock was no problemo! And for a normal price!!

I've seen your pics a few times now and I really have never looked that long to a Sport in the last couple of years! It is just amazing good looking with the round headlight! I'm not sure if I can say this here ... but it looks better than the V11LeMon The flash indicators, the forks, the Termi, they all complete the job. You have done a terrible good job. Congrats!