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I think Teslas have their place like all EV's just not in my driveway. When owning a car or motorcycle for that matter becomes the same to me as my fridge, washing machine or vacuum cleaner then I'll be in the market for an EV. No automated system to date is perfect and requires human oversight. The 737 NG's I specialised in and did many, many cockpit hours in would at top of descent under autopilot control overspeed the aero six times out of ten unless the pilot intervened. The interface between the autopilot and auto throttle used to get it all wrong and it was never resolved to my knowledge. The Active cruise on my cars is the same, good but not perfect and require monitoring. The issue is the operators, the systems will never be perfect. The worlds been made so safe now all the stupid people aren't naturally culled from the herd anymore and end up taking out the smart people. The future looks promising Phil

This is the reason we won't be buying any more new cars... I can't stand the crap they have on them now let alone this level of intrusion! Cheers Ps still reckon getting the idiots who just can't ride/drive off the roads is better than trying to dumb down everything so they can play too... There are buses and trains for these imbeciles! But there isn't a politician with a testicle to implement it... better to just preach about zero road tolls and looking like they give a shit

Even if it was in frame doubt anyone would see it mate!!

That is what worries me. I expect the systems all work all well as can be expected from the state of the art. But they are not up to "completely autonomous" yet, and I see the danger of people relying on them as if they were. Aphorisms: "Don't ride faster than your gaurdian angel can fly".

My guzzi parked just off camera

I have driven a few Teslas, but never owned one or any electric car. It seems the software issue with not seeing motorcycles at night is similar to the human issue - judging a close single tailight to be equivalent of a pair of taillights far away. With that in mind - it seems that we can do is either avoid driving at night or take steps to make ourselves more visible - more lights, reflectors, high-vis clothes etc. If I'm riding the freeway at night, it';s mostly my Stelvio, which is an enormous barge of a motorcycle to begin with, but I have added quite a bit of reflective tape to the back and sides of the saddle bags. As of the driver- assist features. Our 4-wheel vehicles have them, but not the extent of auto-pilot. I like the Subaru's lane-keeping warnings, and the Bronco's adaptive cruise control. My F250's collision warning is a bit over-protective for my taste. It has gone off on tight curves when everyone is in their respective lanes. The more that cars have these features, the more we are protected against driver inattention, but on the flip side of the same coin, the more sense of false security could be provided to drivers who think they don't have to pay attention. Safety first. Stay vigilant. Don't outride your eyesight. ATGATT. Keep the shiny side up... and all the other aphorisms.

Since the conversation has gotten lighter........... there was an article (back in the 70s) about this guy that bought a "conversion" van w/all the accessories , options , etc. After pulling out on the interstate he turned on the cruise control , got up and went back to the mini bar to fix a drink . The rest up to the reader's imagination !

I'm reminded of a job I had in 2017 or 2018. It was the internal presentation of the then new version of the Mercedes Benz Actros truck range. Things like cameras instead of mirrors, lane-holding assistant, automatic braking when something pops up in front of the truck. Lots of assistents, always with the comment "within the limits of the system". Also things like a sensor that should be able to tell if someone is holding the wheel, and a sensor that should be able to tell if someone is actually sitting on the driver's seat, required by law to be able to sell those assistents here. I can see the advantage of those assistents, particularly for truck drivers. But I wasn't happy about it. Watching the presentations, I could see ways to (possibly) trick the system into believing that a human was monitoring the situation (a brick on the seat, and rubber bands on the steering wheel, to put it simply...), and the temptation for the driver to believe that the truck has it all under control, and he doesn't need to concentrate on his job. The way it was being marketed tended more to foster that way of thinking than to foster caution and awareness of the limits of the system. A real , mostly infallible and reliable autopilot will come along some day. I reckon we're still quite a long way from it. Although I am fully aware that when such things are really available I might desperately need them because I possibly wont be able to drive myself anymore, I don't like them. I notice myself that even the function of the cruise control in my car that sets a maximum speed (not hold a speed, but rather sets an upper limit) reduces my concentration on driving. Autonomous vehicles will become the norm, but they just aren't here yet, and drivers need to remain aware of this.

Just bought this Ballabio back after selling it 2 years ago, CF bellypan, front fender, side panels and Mistral exhaust

Haha! I was trying to keep it quiet (..are they the least-cool model of v11?🤔)... but: ZGUKTB0104M112013 Tucked up all schnuggled in Sheffield. 40k miles and running nicely.