docc Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said: Here's a tip, anything made of rubber buy as spares when you can and treat them with preservative and a clip lock bag and store them away out of the light. Rubber parts are a PITA to replicate or find an alternative to. I have my stash. Phil Ah, yeah, rubber preservative/restorative: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstallons Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 8 hours ago, Lucky Phil said: Here's a tip, anything made of rubber buy as spares when you can and treat them with preservative and a clip lock bag and store them away out of the light. Rubber parts are a PITA to replicate or find an alternative to. I have my stash. Phil I haven't heard that term in a LOOOONG time ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikev Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 Thanks. I ordered some parts. Curious that the airbox seal isn't illustrated on the diagram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 4 hours ago, mikev said: Thanks. I ordered some parts. Curious that the airbox seal isn't illustrated on the diagram. Isn't that the #4 GU37114806 "hose?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuzziMoto Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, docc said: Isn't that the #4 GU37114806 "hose?" Pretty sure #4 is the adapter that connects #19 to the throttle body, not the part that connects it to the airbox. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, GuzziMoto said: Pretty sure #4 is the adapter that connects #19 to the throttle body, not the part that connects it to the airbox. Ah, yes, definitely! I had not realized there is a separate "collar" to connect to the back of the throttle body. Thanks, @GuzziMoto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Phil Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 hours ago, GuzziMoto said: Pretty sure #4 is the adapter that connects #19 to the throttle body, not the part that connects it to the airbox. No it's the airbox sealing sleeve. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikev Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said: No it's the airbox sealing sleeve. So the diagram has their positions reversed? ok, well I got an extra pair of them I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Phil Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, mikev said: So the diagram has their positions reversed? ok, well I got an extra pair of them I guess Yep. The rubber sleeve that connects the trumpet to the TB is in the previous parts manual drawing. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfrog Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 @docc & @Lucky Phil are right. @mikev #4 in the diagram you posted is the sleeve/seal connecting the air intake tube to the airbox. The sleeve connecting the air intake to the TB can be found in the TB diagram - #16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Phil Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Parts manuals. Here;s another version of the parts manual. Has anyone ever seen item 19 fitted on a Guzzi V11 Sport? It's not the part number for the clamp that connects the trumpet sleeve to the throttle body either. Parts manuals, they can be misleading sometimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfrog Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 That clamp (#21) shouldn't be there, probably a remnant of earlier models... If you look at the drawing posted earlier, it's not there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, Speedfrog said: That clamp (#21) shouldn't be there, probably a remnant of earlier models... If you look at the drawing posted earlier, it's not there. Welldone, @Speedfrog! Combining those two diagrams is tricky. On the airbox diagram, it does appear my 2000 Sport has the #19 "trumpet" from the airbox to the back of the throttle body with #4 sealing the trumpet to the airbox. No #21 clamp. Then, on the throttle body diagram, my Sport uses the #16 "collar" and clamp #15 to connect the airbox trumpet to the back of the throttle body. [The #14 rubber intake to the #8 intake manifold in front of the throttle body is another matter, entirely.] 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Phil Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, Speedfrog said: That clamp (#21) shouldn't be there, probably a remnant of earlier models... If you look at the drawing posted earlier, it's not there. Problem with that theory is the 99-2000 parts manual shows no clamp and the 02-2007 I have shown has a clamp that's never been fitted to any model as far as I can see. So it's not an outdated carry over from a previous manual. The original image posted may be an even later iteration or amendment to a mistake in the manual. This is why in the aviation world the parts manual was never allowed to be a legal reference for the assembly of aircraft components, it was a part number sourcing reference only. Never to be used to demonstrate assembly order. Phil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfrog Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said: Problem with that theory is the 99-2000 parts manual shows no clamp and the 02-2007 shown has a clamp thats never been fitted as far as I can see. So it's not an outdated carry over from a previous manual. Not a "theory" per se Phil, only a supposition... Admittedly, I didn't scour all the different versions of the parts catalog for the 1100 big block engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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