guzzigary Posted June 13 Posted June 13 IF I were a potential BAT buyer, I would find a cold start/ running video essential viewing 1
Steve54296 Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 14 minutes ago, guzzigary said: IF I were a potential BAT buyer, I would find a cold start/ running video essential viewing I appreciate it! Yeah, I did include a cold start video on BaT. Starts nicely. The only thing I was questioning with it, mechanically, is it has a little clutch noise when the clutch is disengaged/ lever pulled in. But, I read on here, in fact, that it’s very typical of this dry clutch setup, and it’s nothing to worry about, unless you hear loud grinding or whining noises, which, I don’t. I read that they all make some noise, and it’s just the nature of the beast with these machines. 2
Lucky Phil Posted June 13 Posted June 13 The sad truth is the V11 series aren't worth much these days in terms of dollars. I have no idea why when you look at what people are asking for old T5's that have been converted into Cafe racers and other old butchered Guzzis. Its a mystery to me honestly. As we all know the value is decided by the buyer not the seller so personally if I didn't need the money I'd just store it or use it and see what the future holds. Cars and bikes go in and out of fashion. Whats the Falcone look like? Phil 1
Steve54296 Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 5 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said: The sad truth is the V11 series aren't worth much these days in terms of dollars. I have no idea why when you look at what people are asking for old T5's that have been converted into Cafe racers and other old butchered Guzzis. Its a mystery to me honestly. As we all know the value is decided by the buyer not the seller so personally if I didn't need the money I'd just store it or use it and see what the future holds. Cars and bikes go in and out of fashion. Whats the Falcone look like? Phil https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1953-moto-guzzi-falcone/
Steve54296 Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 7 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said: The sad truth is the V11 series aren't worth much these days in terms of dollars. I have no idea why when you look at what people are asking for old T5's that have been converted into Cafe racers and other old butchered Guzzis. Its a mystery to me honestly. As we all know the value is decided by the buyer not the seller so personally if I didn't need the money I'd just store it or use it and see what the future holds. Cars and bikes go in and out of fashion. Whats the Falcone look like? Phil 3
Steve54296 Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said: The sad truth is the V11 series aren't worth much these days in terms of dollars. I have no idea why when you look at what people are asking for old T5's that have been converted into Cafe racers and other old butchered Guzzis. Its a mystery to me honestly. As we all know the value is decided by the buyer not the seller so personally if I didn't need the money I'd just store it or use it and see what the future holds. Cars and bikes go in and out of fashion. Whats the Falcone look like? Phil I think my problem with the Falcone on only getting bid up to $7100, is I was too honest about it. Does it have an occasional drip of oil? Yes, like a few tablespoons per month. BaT wrote that as “engine leaks oil”. Also, I was particular with the title, and submitted for a title correction with the State of MN, to reflect the frame number, and NOT the engine number. I think the fact that the correction is still in progress, ended up scaring people, even though it’s completely a non-issue what’s on the title to begin with, as the numbers on these 1950s bikes don’t really mean a damn thing. It’s not at all equivalent to a modern VIN number. Also, the throttle cable was detached at the handlebar, and I listed that in the auction..oops.. I have since reattached the throttle cable, and it took all of 10 minutes…my point being, is I probably screwed myself on the Falcone auction. Edited June 13 by Steve54296
Steve54296 Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said: The sad truth is the V11 series aren't worth much these days in terms of dollars. I have no idea why when you look at what people are asking for old T5's that have been converted into Cafe racers and other old butchered Guzzis. Its a mystery to me honestly. As we all know the value is decided by the buyer not the seller so personally if I didn't need the money I'd just store it or use it and see what the future holds. Cars and bikes go in and out of fashion. Whats the Falcone look like? Phil I wish I had a place to just let the Ballabio hibernate! My mom wants my dad’s stuff cleared out, and I’m pretty well maxed out with stuff at my house, until I get a polebarn built. I probably needed a polebarn over a decade ago, but instead, my 3 stall garage just slowly became a game of Tetris…a game I am quickly losing 🤣 Edited June 13 by Steve54296 1
po18guy Posted June 13 Posted June 13 2 hours ago, Steve54296 said: Ha, that would be nice! BaT takes the information you give them, and writes the listing for you. While they claim it’s so they can cut through the fluff and BS, so buyers have an accurate representation, I think they are too aggressive with their language. For example, I had told them my dad’s Falcone has an occasional oil drip, maybe a few tablespoons per month. They translated that into my listing as “engine leaks oil”. While they were, technically, not wrong, if I were a potential buyer and read, “engine leaks oil”, I’d be thinking if I ride this thing a mile from home, I could very well lock up the engine! Where as, the reality is, it would be almost impossible to find a Falcone that doesn’t have an occasional oil drip, unless a guy has torn the thing to pieces, and black RTVed the living daylights out of it! It’s almost as though BaT punishes a guy for being honest about it. Their standard exceeds that of the manufacturer. 2
audiomick Posted June 14 Posted June 14 2 hours ago, Steve54296 said: ... is it has a little clutch noise ...typical of this dry clutch setup... If that is still worrying you, I'd suggest you go and listen to a Ducati with a super-trick carbon fibre open clutch cover. After that, you will never, ever worry about the rattly noises from a Guzzi clutch. 57 minutes ago, Steve54296 said: I wish I had a place to just let the Ballabio hibernate!... Think very, very hard about which of your mates have a big garage and owe you a favour. 2
Steve54296 Posted June 14 Author Posted June 14 19 minutes ago, audiomick said: If that is still worrying you, I'd suggest you go and listen to a Ducati with a super-trick carbon fibre open clutch cover. After that, you will never, ever worry about the rattly noises from a Guzzi clutch. Think very, very hard about which of your mates have a big garage and owe you a favour. Ha, yes, I had ridden the Ballabio, right after I had ridden my dad’s BMW R1200RT(which I just sold), so we are talking going from a bike where the Germans did every thing they could do to engineer the character out of the ride, to an Italian bike with lots of character! I also noticed the Ballabio was a little difficult to kick down into first gear, so not sure if that’s typical, or if there’s something I could do to improve that. 2
Lucky Phil Posted June 14 Posted June 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Steve54296 said: I wish I had a place to just let the Ballabio hibernate! My mom wants my dad’s stuff cleared out, and I’m pretty well maxed out with stuff at my house, until I get a polebarn built. I probably needed a polebarn over a decade ago, but instead, my 3 stall garage just slowly became a game of Tetris…a game I am quickly losing 🤣 I've been in your situation and the answer is keep them in the house. I had the MV Agusta in the lounge room behind the sofa and the Ducati1000ss in the dining room. No smells or leaks, all good. Every girlfriend I had at the time ( I was single and in my late 40's early 50's and there were a few) would shriek in horror when they first saw them in the house and then just ended up forgetting they were there after a few sleepovers. I used to tell them consider them Kinetic art. Once people get over the initial "motorbikes shouldn't be in the house" mantra then they just become an accepted part of the furniture. I'd actually prefer them not in the house only because they do actually just become part of the furniture you are so used to them being there and they lose a bit of their "specialness". You don't realise how lovely a 2005 MV1000 is until you haven't looked at it for a while when it's been under the bike cover. Phil Edited June 14 by Lucky Phil 4
audiomick Posted June 14 Posted June 14 12 minutes ago, Steve54296 said: I also noticed the Ballabio was a little difficult to kick down into first gear, so not sure if that’s typical, or if there’s something I could do to improve that. I can't say I've noticed that, but you could have a look at what @Lucky Phil wrote here. I haven't done it (yet), but it all seems plausible to me. I've got all the bits. Just waiting for the round tuit. 1
Pressureangle Posted June 14 Posted June 14 3 hours ago, audiomick said: If that is still worrying you, I'd suggest you go and listen to a Ducati with a super-trick carbon fibre open clutch cover. After that, you will never, ever worry about the rattly noises from a Guzzi clutch. Think very, very hard about which of your mates have a big garage and owe you a favour. The loudest clutch I've ever heard is in my '74 Aermacchi/HD Sprint 350 after venting the clutch cover. 2
activpop Posted June 14 Posted June 14 (edited) I've been following V11 prices for a while and have bought and sold a few myself. There was recently a Houston Ballabio for sale like yours with low mileage, but it was pristine showroom condition. It was listed quite a while for over 8K. It finally sold, but no clue what for. I think I could be happy with 5-6k in my pocket. IDK what BaT does for commission, but that would be my target for your bike with no maintainenance for years and some cosmetic damage. Now if it was a greenie... Edited June 14 by activpop 1
po18guy Posted June 14 Posted June 14 5 hours ago, Steve54296 said: Ha, yes, I had ridden the Ballabio, right after I had ridden my dad’s BMW R1200RT(which I just sold), so we are talking going from a bike where the Germans did every thing they could do to engineer the character out of the ride, to an Italian bike with lots of character! I also noticed the Ballabio was a little difficult to kick down into first gear, so not sure if that’s typical, or if there’s something I could do to improve that. Make sure the shift lever is not fouling the "porkchop" on the side of the frame. The lever does appear that it is adjusted fairly far down. 2
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