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I reckon you'll find the Ballabio fork stanchions enough longer to mount the clip-ons above the triple clamp.
As to the top tree, @Lucky Phil did some thorough investigation of how they changed over the range. Seems I recall he verified that the bore angle changed. I hope he chimes in, otherwise I will try to find that thread . . .
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I found it interesting this racer still has the starter cover . . .
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4 hours ago, po18guy said:
To achieve some semblance of lightness, big chunks must be removed - wherever they may be found.
Who are ya callin' a "big chunk?"
I'm sittin' right here and can hear what yer sayin' . . .
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Are there any Guareschi bikes in that livery before the V11 Coppa Italia?
Or did Guareschi adopt the scheme from the 2004 V11 Coppa Italia?
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54 minutes ago, Randy said:
This is Gianfranco Guareschi's 2007 Daytona Battle of the Twins bike in his family's team colors, cant find a picture of the 2003 bike. I think the Coppa is patterned after them.
Searching, then, for images of Guareschi V11 entry in this race series for 2003 . . .
"Gianfranco Guareschi on a V11 Scura (featuring a striking red livery;"
Here is another 2003 article from Anima Gussista:
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Ten days out to SSR XXI . . .
mySport looks to be in parc fermé awaiting the joys and concerns of the challenge.
Sure, the distances are not that great. Nor are the roads terribly compromised. Yet, the matters of accomplishing this sort of thing for the twenty-first consecutive time are not lost on my determination.
As well as the determination of all SpineRaiders . . .
Get There.
Bring Tools.
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Very beautiful to read the (English translated) Anima Gizzista article by V. Fange and see the actual images of these SpineFrames competing in 2003 that inspired Moto Guzzi to produce the V11 Coppa Italia !
"Let me just say that seeing four latest-generation Guzzis lined up on the starting line of a national race
made me feel like I was about to witness a major world-class event.
The emotion had gripped me and showed no signs of letting up. "
- V. Fange/ Anima Guzzista
Here's one for @Pressureangle !
rider: Oscar Bacco
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1 hour ago, Goofman said:
There is honor in duty, sir. Hope you can make it. Us CARC guys gotta stick together.
See? Right there: Cattura A Regulato Compagni . . .
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So, with @Pressureangle's dedication to using his new search engine, it seems the V11 Coppa Italia is not so much a "replica" of a particular race bike, but more of a tribute to the involvement of several modified V11 in a subset of racing (2003 Campionato Italiano Naked) under the broader banner of the FMI Coppa Italia (Italian Cup) racing series. I'll edit our " Breakdown of Model Year Changes " to show the V11 Coppa Italia as a 2004 model and link that thread back to this one.
Thanks, again, @Pressureangle!
[ I will cease and desist from the whole "soccer" connection. While I try to hunt down who/how that ever started . . .
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Thanks for letting us know, @Tom in Virginia.
Hopefully, things will settle and you can still come. It is always great to hang out with you!
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23 hours ago, Pressureangle said:
SuperGrok FTW
Always search in Native languages, inevitably better information.
-----The Coppa Italia in motorcycle racing refers to a national-level circuit racing series in Italy, primarily focused on production-derived motorcycles and serving as a stepping stone for aspiring riders. Organized under the auspices of the Federazione Motociclistica Italiana (FMI), it has evolved from its origins as a dedicated championship for near-stock bikes into an integrated component of the broader Campionato Italiano Velocità (CIV), Italy's premier national speed championship. Below is a chronological historical account, drawing on its development, key milestones, notable riders, and structural changes.Origins and Early Years (1984–2000: Campionato Italiano Sport Production)The series traces its roots to 1984, when it was established as the Campionato Italiano Sport Production (commonly abbreviated as Campionato SP or Italiano SP). This was designed as an accessible entry-level competition for motorcycles closely derived from road-legal production models, initially limited to a maximum displacement of 125 cm³. The goal was to provide a cost-effective platform for young and amateur riders to compete using bikes that required minimal modifications, fostering talent in a controlled environment. Regulations emphasized stock components, with manufacturers like Aprilia, Honda, Cagiva, and Yamaha supplying official kits for approved upgrades (e.g., exhausts, suspensions, and brakes) while mandating that elements like tires remain catalog-available and road-compliant.In its early seasons, the championship featured a single 125 cm³ class, but it quickly expanded to include multiple categories in some years, such as 350 cm³, 500 cm³, 750 cm³ (split into 2-cylinder and 4-cylinder subclasses), Battle of Twins (for twin-cylinder bikes), Stock 600 cm³, 600 cm³ Special, and Naked classes (divided into under and over 650 cm³). Races were held on Italy's iconic circuits, including Monza, Misano, Mugello, and Vallelunga, typically as multi-round series with points-based standings.This era produced several future world champions. In the late 1980s and early 1990s, the 125 cm³ class became a breeding ground for talent:- Loris Capirossi debuted and honed his skills here before moving to Grand Prix racing.
- Max Biaggi made his mark in 1990 on a Honda, then switched to Aprilia and won the 125 cm³ title in 1991 at age 20.
- Valentino Rossi claimed the 125 cm³ championship in 1994 aboard a Cagiva Mito, a pivotal step before his 125cc World Championship win in 1997.
- 125 cm³ 2T (two-stroke)
- 125 cm³ PreGP
- 250 cm³ PreGP
- 250 cm³ 4T (four-stroke)
Can you find the (possibly 2003?) Moto Guzzi racer that the V11 Coppa Italia has been said to be a replica of?
Any images from those years' races?
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It appears the recombinant search algorithms of "Grok" (rsaG) lifted the "National Naked Bike Championship [of the Roadster Cup]" language from this March 2025 auction seller's language.
https://iconicmotorbikeauctions.com/auction/2004-moto-guzzi-v11-coppa-italia-2/
The ad copy looks nearly identical to this Coppa Italia on offer in 2023 on a website related to the one above, possibly penned by the same ad copy editor:
https://www.bike-urious.com/2004-moto-guzzi-v11-coppa-italia-4/
The March 2025 Coppa reportedly sold for a handsome $10,500US, yet used bike ad copy is hardly a respectable reference for archival content . . .
Anyone else recall the "soccer connection" to the V11 Coppa Italia?
Or have original Moto Guzzi promotional materials for the V11 Coppa Italia?
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8 hours ago, PhillipLarsen said:
Yes I think it is promotional material based on the 2002 Hillclimb
2005 Moto Guzzi V11 Ballabio
V11 Ballabio — Named after the Italian Hillclimb Speed Championship, Moto Guzzi introduces the V11 Ballabio. Higher handle bars for a more relaxed riding position. The latest 90º V-Twin with added crossover pipe and increased compression ratio to 9.8:1. Brembo Gold Series brakes. 180/55 17″ rear tire. Available in Red and Black.
Making racing history
“Ballabio-Resinelli” is one of those names that are burned into the annals of motorcycle racing. The Ballabio is a true test of a bike’s speed and its rider’s prowess, a hillclimb around tortuous bends that bring out the true character of man and machine. To have any chance of winning, a machine must have bags of power at low revs, must be flickable and compact, and must have suspensions to match. This meeting of tradition and technology, an event that after 29 years has become part of motorcycling history, is one in which the machines of Mandello del Lario excel. To celebrate its victory in the Modern Open Class of the 2002 Ballabio uphill, the third race in the Italian Hillclimb Speed Championship, Moto Guzzi is giving this legendary name to a new model, the V11 Sport Ballabio.Where did you source the promotional language, @PhillipLarsen?
Is there an equivalent for the Coppa Italia?
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I did find this period Cycle World magazine article by David Edwards introducing the V11 Coppa Italia, "Celebrating the factory’s involvement in Italian Cup roadracing (Guzzi marked its 80th birthday three years ago) . . . "
This would make more sense as a commemorative than any recent roadracing ca. 2004.
No idea where I got the soccer connection. Anyone else recall that?
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I had always heard the V11 Coppa Italia was intended to celebrate Italian soccer successes. Yet, I am not finding a good reference for that recollection.
The web, now, is making reference to commemoration of a motorcycle race ca 2003-2004. One source states, " . . . the V 11 Coppa Italia takes its name from a famous Italian championship in which Moto-Guzzi recently excelled. It's also a "Replica" model of the machine that took part in this cup. "
Yet, I cannot find any images or references to such a race much less a race bike that the Coppa Italia would be a "replica" of.
What would Moo Guzzi have even taken to the races in 2003?
Something @Pressureangle posted in his 2000 Redframe on Deck thread prompted me to look further into the V11 Coppa Italia, hear your recollections and bring together some references for its origins . . .
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On 8/23/2025 at 9:16 PM, docc said:
Add the 2005 Scura R to the Öhlins list.
And then there is the matter of what the V11 Coppa Italia may actually commemorate . . .
Crafting a separate topic for this Coppa Italia discussion. Trying to learn more about the elusive, and alluring, V11 Coppa Italia!
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On 8/22/2025 at 3:32 PM, Pressureangle said:
So, since I've ponied up a subscription to SuperGrok, I asked. This took about 8 seconds to return.
Which Moto Guzzi V11 models came with Ohlins front fork suspension?The Moto Guzzi V11 models that came equipped with Öhlins front fork suspension are the following:-
V11 Scura (2002): This limited-edition model featured Öhlins suspension components, including a titanium nitride-coated 43 mm inverted Öhlins telescopic fork.
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V11 Café Sport (2003-2005): This model replaced the Scura and was fitted with a 43 mm adjustable Öhlins inverted telescopic fork.
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V11 Le Mans Rosso Corsa (2003): This high-spec version of the Le Mans came with a 43 mm adjustable Öhlins inverted telescopic fork.
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V11 Le Mans Nero Corsa (2004): Similar to the Rosso Corsa, this model featured a 43 mm adjustable Öhlins inverted telescopic fork.
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V11 Coppa Italia (2004-2005): This limited-edition model, built to commemorate Moto Guzzi’s participation in the 2003 Italian Naked Bike Championship, was equipped with a 43 mm adjustable Öhlins inverted telescopic fork.
Add the 2005 Scura R to the Öhlins list.
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V11 Scura (2002): This limited-edition model featured Öhlins suspension components, including a titanium nitride-coated 43 mm inverted Öhlins telescopic fork.
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Scrolling down through all the images, the seller clearly shows the V11 sport they dismantled:
2003 "carryover" Sport (2002 specification like a 2002 LeMans), black 40mm Marzocchi.
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Fresh Picker Components high current relays would be reasonable.
I have always run the OEM style Hawker Odyssey AGM, formerly known as PC545. YMMV
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Yessir. Thanks for posting those details. This is exactly what happens when the right outboard needle cage gets neglected. That should be cleaned and liberally greased with a waterproof grease regularly. I do mine every tire change. For me, that is 3-4000 miles/ yearly.
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Agreed the black Ballabio forks are Marzocchi.
Aren't early V11 forks 40mm and later (like the Ballabio) 43mm?
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10 hours ago, docc said:
Are those OMRON G8HE or G8HN? Either way, but especially for the G8HN, the critical ones could have aged out (#2 and especially #5/the very back one for the fuel and ignition).
Also, inspect the Sidestand switch, actuator, wiring, and connections.
Another "cut out" point are the spade connectors for fuel/igmitinn/ECU under the fuse block. It can be carefully pried up to inspect and secure these hidden wonders:
I had to think about the wiring changes between the early and later V11, but I believe one of the common weak links in the relays is the NC contact of Relay#1/front. The NC contact is the lowest rated and only kept in contact by the internal spring, not the power of the coil.
Bounce or poor contact in the NC contact of Relay#1 would definitely be suspect for the cut out symptoms.
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Are those OMRON G8HE or G8HN? Either way, but especially for the G8HN, the critical ones could have aged out (#2 and especially #5/the very back one for the fuel and ignition).
Also, inspect the Sidestand switch, actuator, wiring, and connections.
Another "cut out" point are the spade connectors for fuel/igmitinn/ECU under the fuse block. It can be carefully pried up to inspect and secure these hidden wonders:
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The American Motorcyclist Association cannot confirm that roadside assistance is verified on mySport.
Looking to rely on Hagerty and let the AMA membership non-renew.
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Let's we-Yanks talk Proper English with the Australians . . .