Chuck

Along with the crazy people Chuck Ciao Some times, the difference between crazy and genius is simply a matter of time..

No, I said .660/.670" on the marked up original drawing.

Oh, yeah. The material is essentially free. All the money is in the time to make them. I should have just stepped up and made them in the first place. They would have been done and forgotten about by now. It just reminded me entirely too much of work.. and.. a place that does this commercially should be tooled up and be able to make them for considerably less than I can.

Ok, I see the problem. Scud sent me some springs to check. See the red line on the cad drawing and the box at the top left saying length .7? 2018-01-30_10-23-08 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr My bad. I intended to tag the end of the line when dimensioning it, not the center of the spring. That's why when I scaled the spring I'd made for the last time before sending the whole works back to Scud I marked out the .62 dimension and said .7 There is no excuse for that. Sorry. Just the same, it would work ok. It just sits there and doesn't move through the full travel and more. Here is the assembly at coil bind. 2018-01-30_10-25-42 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr However, the angle is way out of spec. We asked for 15 degrees, and you can see it is 31. 2018-01-30_10-24-55 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr That is unacceptable because it will drive the spring past it's "safe travel." My gut feeling is if the manufacturer could wind another 15 degrees on it, they would be ok. Just the same, I'd like to make another run and make everything *right* including the ID of the spring. I asked for .660/.670" and it is .682. Again, that shouldn't hurt anything.. but it's out of the spec that was calculated. It will apply a (very) little less torque. Maybe they will give us a break on another run because of one of the most important specs being out of tolerance? There's a reason for that swing set cartoon..

No no no, the Aero Lario gaiters are beautifuler. All through time, great artists are never understood..

You suck, Scud..

You can tell by pulling the "timing inspection" plug and having a look up her skirt. I don't have the pix right now, but an internet search should show the difference. Congrats on having one of the prettiest Guzzis built, and welcome to the best forum in the world on them.

Ahh, a fuel additive thread. Almost as good as an oil thread. I read a review of the then current fuel additives a few years ago, and Techron won hands down. When I'm out in California, I run Chevron because I can get it. The Mighty Scura has been run on it for years, and sat for as much as 10 months at a time without a fuel issue, ever. That's my story, and I'm stickin with it. Can't get Chevron around here. I suppose I should get some Techron and but it in the bike's tanks once in a while.

Just a FYI. I recently bought an Odyssey charger. I figured why not, I have 4 Odyssey batteries.. if it saves one it just paid for itself. Certainly does work well.

Keith Code rox..

Another old tool room saying.. "The guy that can smile when things are going wrong has found someone else to blame it on." Just talked to Scud, and he is going to send me some springs to measure and see what we have. Let's not get in too much of a hurry. Only one guy that I know of has his bike apart waiting for a new spring. I should have just bit the bullet and made them.. sounded like work at the time, though.

The old tool room adage, "There is never time to do it right, but always time to do it over" applies. Certainly 15 degrees too much coil is cause for rejection. We have enough experience with an over driven spring.

Yes.

It's just play money, Docc, and everyone knows that play money doesn't count.

From the spring calculator.. If it is truly 30 degrees, 39+30= 69 degrees.. that's over the safe travel limit. I'm not buying that. Yes, it would probably work. I've already tested one like that as a worst case scenario, and it went through a quarter million shifts without issue. That extra .075" ? I'm not sure what happened there. Probably, I misread my scale? I do remember crossing out the .62 right as I was packing the box to send to Scud. If so, I'll eat the cost of making new ones.

Uh oh. The springs I made, and the drawing shows it to be shorter than that. They'll probably be fine, but they are "supposed" to ride on the flat. From memory, the leg length from the center of the coil to the center of the leg is .7" I wonder if they added the bend radius to the dimension? Edit: here's the picture before adding a matching radius to the Mighty Scura. You can see the short arm is on the flat. 2018-01-15_01-15-11 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr

Nicely done..

Now, the hard work begins. I now know why there is a shipping and fondling charge.. Thanks, Scud..

Yeah, 2GuzziDave, now noGuzzi Dave had one, it was a beauty. Chuck in Wisconsin still does. They make paint, ya know..

Docc.. air that gets in gotta gets out. You need 20% more outlet area than inlet area. Roughly. 044 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr I can't imagine some louvers on the bucket hurting anything.. except for rain getting in when you are at the bar drying out.

I've seen two greenies with Magnis. Yours would look good..and the price is right.

If you get time, I'd like one to put on the test rig.

So, what was it?

I just used a padded envelope for the Lucky Phil Extenders. From memory only a couple of bucks or so first class.