docc Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 At the risk of overposting, I could not let this one get away . . . 1 Link to comment
audiomick Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 46 minutes ago, docc said: At the risk of overposting... Can't imagine that being a danger with you. Nice music. I've grown to really like accordions. The only thing is, they are a bugger to mic up. The descant side isn't such a problem, but the bass side moves so much that it is really hard to capture. It seems the bloke in the video has a mic mounted on the instrument on the descant side. The bass of the accordion was a little under represented, too. The other thing, an SM 58 for a soprano sax? Ummm, no. But I want that bass. Can't play such a thing, actually, but that one is really cool. Link to comment
audiomick Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Accordion again. This bloke was big in the german speaking countries through the nineties. The accordion he is playing is one of these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steirische_Harmonika At the start of the video one can hear how important the bass side of the instrument can be. Part of the fun of mixing a band with one of those is getting that out, and making it sit with the bass guitar, should there be one. By the way, even if you think you can understand a bit of german, don't bother. They're Austrian, and singing in dialect. I can barely understand what he is singing, if at all. 1 1 Link to comment
audiomick Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I worked for this band for about a year in the first half of the nineties. I reckon this "concert" was recorded within about a half a year after I gave up the job. The bass player was always on about the "carbon fibre" bass that he was having made, which I never saw. I reckon the one in the video must be it. The trick to the bass sound is, it is a double bass, but it has a magnetic pickup in it like an electric bass. The one he was using when I was doing their sound was a cheap wooden double bass, but it had the magnetic pickup, and sounded great. The brown guitar is a Maton. A truly beautiful guitar. I think the black one is a Gibson. The guitarist bought it from a bloke in Adelaide during the time I was working for them. I reckon the Maton was better. They are/were all truly excellent musicians. The songs were all "pop songs", but good. It was fun while it lasted, but it is probably good that I stopped doing it when I did. What came after was also good. 3 Link to comment
p6x Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 On 3/19/2024 at 10:10 PM, audiomick said: I reckon the Maton was better. Wasn't Tommy Emmanuel playing on Maton guitars? I did not know they made electrics. Link to comment
p6x Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 On 3/19/2024 at 8:07 PM, audiomick said: Accordion again. Accordion was big in France as the main instrument. We used to have some big names associated with it. Interestingly, most accordions were made in Italy, where all the good things come from... Cavagnolo, Fratelli Crosio... I just found that the tradition is perpetuated, still.... lots of Accordion based "Bal-musette" as they were known, and going strong with young people learning the craft. Notice she plays a Cavagnolo... who knows, she may have a Moto Guzzi too! 1 Link to comment
audiomick Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 On 3/21/2024 at 3:13 PM, p6x said: Wasn't Tommy Emmanuel playing on Maton guitars? I did not know they made electrics. Yes, Tommy Emmanuel is their principle sponsored Artist, I would say. https://maton.com.au/artists/tommy-emmanuel As far as electric guitars go, I believe the company made electric guitars right from the beginning. Apparently George Harrison played one once, but only as a replacement guitar for one, maybe two shows. Whatever, the acoustics are much more well known. The last time I looked at their site, there were a number of electric guitars available. At the moment I can't find any, although there is a link there to electric guitars. Don't know what is going on there. Doesn't really matter to me actually. Buying a Maton is definitely exclusively on the "when I win the Lottery" list. I'd love to have one, but.... 1 Link to comment
p6x Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 12 hours ago, audiomick said: Doesn't really matter to me actually. Buying a Maton is definitely exclusively on the "when I when the Lottery" list. I'd love to have one, but.... I own some exclusive guitars, based on the number produced, but also because at one point in my aspiring guitar player path, I thought that it would be better for me to get guitar built around my own aspirations. I think today's guitar market is oversaturated with the so-called "Boutique" and self-declared Luthiers. The prices have gone insane with little justification. I am wondering when the market is going to collapse. Yesterday's guitars priced around the 500 USD are today's at 1500 USD. The very well known brands are selling guitars well above the 10,000 USD. I am a big fan of Gregor Hilden, and I got a German luthier to make me a Gregor Hilden signature... Helliver; https://legendary-guitars.com/de/helliver-guitars-aus-muenster/ This guy makes incredible guitars at a fair pricing, and closer to you than Maton... 2 Link to comment
audiomick Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 9 hours ago, p6x said: closer to you than Maton... Indeed, but still on the other side of the country. I had a search a while back, and immediately found at least three luthiers in Leipzig, one of which who specialises in electric guitars. No idea how good they, but if I wanted to start looking, I could start here. However, as you say, good guitars cost a fortune, and I can't even play very well, so I'm not looking. Deliberately. If I did even think about looking, things might get very expensive very quickly. 1 Link to comment
p6x Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 When you are four, and you can only afford a single guitar.... 2 1 Link to comment
audiomick Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 3/26/2024 at 2:35 PM, p6x said: When you are four, and you can only afford a single guitar.... Silly bugger acrobatics, but well done. My respect for the one who figured out who plays what on which strings. Link to comment
p6x Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 28 minutes ago, audiomick said: Silly bugger acrobatics, but well done. My respect for the one who figured out who plays what on which strings. I initially thought each one of them were playing independent hands, but it is not the case. The guy fretting the bass line is also doing the finger picking; same for the guy playing the melody, both hands. That leaves the guy at the headstock who is fretting some of the notes. Check the one below. Scrub to 4'30" and look. Each player frets the other's instrument. That's a bit more complicated coordination wise, even if they strum most of it. Link to comment
audiomick Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Yes, well done. Also a "party trick" at the end of the day, but difficult. But no one ever said that Steve Vai couldn't play guitar. Link to comment
p6x Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 31 minutes ago, audiomick said: But no one ever said that Steve Vai couldn't play guitar. I admire his command on the instrument, but I never really liked his music. I feel that it is not melodious enough. I have the same feeling about Yngwie Malmsteen pick sweeping. This rapid succession of notes is very difficult to achieve, but not for me. Gary Moore in his blues days would really be my favorite. I also liked Danny Gatton a lot. He was incredibly good at keeping an independent bass line. 1 1 Link to comment
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