audiomick Posted June 18 Posted June 18 17 hours ago, Lucky Phil said: A "Well Known Fact". Comes up in conversation with my wife regularly. There is no rebuttal to a WKF, it is gospel. Once the immortal WKF is pronounced no further arguments will be considered Phil Of course. Obvious, really...
fotoguzzi Posted June 19 Posted June 19 My Buell was a shaker but it had freight train torque .. l kinda miss it. 2
activpop Posted June 19 Posted June 19 No more Mickey Mouse ears...replaced them with Motogadget mirrors and RhinoMoto bar ends. I like them a lot. Good view, much better than stock because they were too far inboard. 3
audiomick Posted June 19 Posted June 19 8 hours ago, activpop said: ... Motogadget mirrors... They're from the series with a polished aluminium reflecting surface rather than a glass mirror, aren't they? I've been considering some of them (different shape, but from that series) for my V35 Imola. A bit expensive, but it seems to be a very classy solution to me. 1
Scud Posted June 19 Author Posted June 19 Bar-ends for a sport - better looking and better visibility. And it frees up the mirror mount for a RAM ball, where I use a small arm and the quad-lock for my phone when I want navigation help. I'm impressed with the quad-lock system. I have the motogadget "glassless" mirrors on my Griso, but in the more angular, elongated-diamond shape. I like them. My Scura has the classic Napoleon bar-end mirrors. And I like the close mirror in your picture reflects an image of the far mirror. 2
activpop Posted June 19 Posted June 19 (edited) 3 hours ago, LowRyter said: @Scud what is a glasssless mirror? Is it polished metal? @audiomickYes, all metal. Edited June 19 by activpop 1 1
audiomick Posted June 19 Posted June 19 6 hours ago, LowRyter said: @Scud what is a glasssless mirror? Is it polished metal? Yes, it is polished aluminium, as I mentioned above. I don't have them (yet), but really like the idea. From the blurb on the motogadget site: Quote The convex mirror surface is produced by flycutting using diamond tools on ultra-precision machines in Berlin. It is then made resistant to oxidation, corrosion and abrasion by an elaborate plasma coating in a vacuum. under "product details" https://www.motogadget.com/en/products/mo-view-classic-60 Particularly for bar-end mirrors, which are the first thing to hit the ground if the bike falls over. Particularly if they are, as is considered very, very cool here, mounted hanging down from the bars instead of above them. Seems to me that metal makes much more sense than glass in that situation. 1
Lucky Phil Posted June 19 Posted June 19 (edited) Here we go again with the bar end mirrors. You can buy such elegant traditional mirrors these days why fit sticky outy mirrors on a bike and add 3 0r 4 inches to it's width and also have little slipstream catchers and weights on the ends of the bars a long way from the steering pivot point to influence the steering. Motorcycle should be as slim and narrow as practically possible Phil Edited June 19 by Lucky Phil 1
Pressureangle Posted June 19 Posted June 19 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said: Here we go again with the bar end mirrors. You can buy such elegant traditional mirrors these days why fit sticky outy mirrors on a bike and add 3 0r 4 inches to it's width and also have little slipstream catchers and weights on the ends of the bars a long way from the steering pivot point to influence the steering. Motorcycle should be as slim and narrow as practically possible Phil My experience is that visibility is quite often better. I much prefer the parking lot panache, too. All the cool kids have bar end mirrors. But my bike has been on the ground about $600 worth of bar end mirrors, so I won't be having any myself. On the last point, why aren't we all riding Sportsters? Or wait... Edited June 19 by Pressureangle
docc Posted June 20 Posted June 20 39 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said: Here we go again with the bar end mirrors. You can buy such elegant traditional mirrors these days why fit sticky outy mirrors on a bike and add 3 0r 4 inches to it's width and also have little slipstream catchers and weights on the ends of the bars a long way from the steering pivot point to influence the steering. Motorcycle should be as slim and narrow as practically possible Phil Oh, my . . . 1
pete roper Posted June 20 Posted June 20 I’ve never understood the attraction of bar ends? The ones big enough to see anything look daggy and the small ones, even if you like the look and I’m not a fan, you can’t see anything in. I have used them in the past but only when I couldn’t find anything cheap to fit conventionally, (This was years ago. Long before eBay and the like.) On my Grisos and Manas I’ve got the stock Aprilia ‘Trapezoid’ ones. Clear as a bell, no blurring, great field of vision. What’s not to like? 3
Guzzijens Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Did one of the best upgrades of my Rosso Mandello by fitting Andreani fork damper, very pleased, the bike is more stable and absorbes bumps in a much better way. And I can confirm that it fit the 40mm black forks 5
Lucky Phil Posted June 20 Posted June 20 17 hours ago, pete roper said: I’ve never understood the attraction of bar ends? The ones big enough to see anything look daggy and the small ones, even if you like the look and I’m not a fan, you can’t see anything in. I have used them in the past but only when I couldn’t find anything cheap to fit conventionally, (This was years ago. Long before eBay and the like.) On my Grisos and Manas I’ve got the stock Aprilia ‘Trapezoid’ ones. Clear as a bell, no blurring, great field of vision. What’s not to like? Yea Pete. Here is my only foray into bar end mirrors my Hailwood Mille. The original stock mirrors were totally horrid as those type of add ons were back in 1985 for Italian bikes. The Italians only added them for legality and didn't expect anyone would actually leave them on. The bar end mirrors was totally shite as well but only fractionally less shite than the OEM ones. I was never happy with it there. The image reminds me of my totally inane obsession with modifying motorcycles goes back well over 40 years like a disease. The Bimota has Campag race wheels with a 5.5 inch rear and a hand cut Michelin rear slick and home made calliper hanger and race disk, bespoke mufflers made for me by Sandy at Staintune, 4 piston Brembos and home made calliper carriers and 320mm rotors at the front and also a bespoke aluminium fuel tank to replace the plastic original. The Mille has pretty much the same wheel and brake mods as well as engine and gearbox and close ratio transmission. God I've wasted a lot of effort on bikes over the years. Like I said a disease. 4
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