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I've had a new battery electric car for the last 6 months. It has all the safety features to qualify for ANCAP rating 5, and I don't regret buying it. It should engage auto braking for a bike (if I don't see it) but I'm not going to test it. Some of the critics of my choice say things that have the same tone as comments I've heard through the decades. "Tubeless tires? No thanks". "Multi-grade oil? Not for me". "Don't like auto transmission, I want to be in control". "Don't like seat belts, I want...". So yeah, I like a modern car. Even stranger are the criticisms of an electric car. "They catch fire". -Less often than ICE cars. "We're going to run out of Lithium" -It's 3rd element in the periodic table. There's shit-tons of it around. "It's mined with slave labor". -Australia is currently producing 1/2 of the world's supply, and those miners are extremely well paid. "Lithium batteries can't be recycled ". - obvious nonsense. Yes I have a 20 year old Guzzi, but I like modern stuff.

Yep, me too in saying NO to an electric motorcycle..... About the only electric vehicle I'm going to buy will be one of those mobility jobbies when I can't walk or get about! Not interested in any others. Cheers

1. Style. Guzzi manages to make good looking bikes. 2. Handling. Up there with the best. 3. Brand allegiance.

Firstly, last checked, these V11s should only be getting 91+. Times when I know I'm blowing through a full tank, I'll run fuel system cleaner to clean the throttle bodies. I know not to let that stuff sit in the tank or it'll eat the tank up. But running 91 with clean injectors, if ran like a rational human being, though a tuned ECU, I can squeeze 38-42mpg. The fuel light will pop on at around 175-190mi but will still a bit. But riding like I stole it? 32.. If you're on top of maintenence, clean injectors, fuel filter, oil, etc, these are pretty good economically. Despite being a big girl.

To be fully sincere, I will not purchase an electric motorcycle; not even a good looking Guzzi. I will keep on my current herd, and possibly adding one more Guzzi, to be determined which one, but possibly not one of those equipped with the new V100 engine. In one of the magazine I received, there is a comparative of what we called "mid-size trail bikes". The Moto Guzzi V85TT came on top. Since I really like the "evocative" graphics, it may be this one.

Mein Gott.... Best left in the realm of science fiction as far as I'm concerned. Ha ha I am fond of a good Shiraz and a cheese platter but best enjoyed at Wine o clock either in front of the fire in winter or on the balcony in summer.... Cheers

In my case, even at second and third glances.... If you say Moto Guzzi anywhere in Europe, in the proper entourage of course, the people will automatically think about the notorious engine architecture that Guzzi is well known for. What is going to distinguish an electric Guzzi from the other electric motorcycles? chances are, the electric motor, battery, control systems are going to be outsourced. Or at least, this is how I picture it in my head. What are going to be the discriminating parameters used to make our choices? engine power? number of cylinders, cylinder disposition, sound? well no more, right? Autonomy, recharge time... I am guessing the looks will probably not be as important as it used to be. The question I am asking myself is, will motorcycles continue to seduce aficionados like us when everything is electric? Once the technology is reliable, I expect that only autonomous cars will be available for purchase. You will no longer be able to operate a car unless it is a vintage one. I think we need to make the most of what we have today, as it may not last very long. I was in Paris at the beginning of the month, and the municipality is making driving or parking cars or motorcycles an ordeal.

It is actually much darker than training. The MCAS was kept hidden from regulations and manuals as the aircraft manufacturer involved was trying to market the aircraft to only be another variation of the line, not requiring any recertification or training. After the first accident, the aircraft manufacturer disclosed the existence of the MCAS and issued some directives to mitigate its influence. But it did not prevent the second accident. In this case, the involved airline indicated the pilots could not regain control even when carrying out the procedure. Long story short, the MCAS relied on a single AoA sensor which was the major gamble taken. Anyway back to car's auto pilots. I don't know if you heard, but Cruise's driverless Taxis have completely shut down operation because of an incident that contributed to the injuries of a pedestrian. The pedestrian was hit by another car, and landed underneath the Cruise's driverless car. At first the Cruise car immediately stopped. But then it resumed course and dragged the injured pedestrian stuck underneath it on a distance of about 20' before stopping again. Initially, Cruise only provided the video showing the Taxi stopping with the pedestrian underneath the front end. Failing the disclose the part showing the Taxi resuming motion. As a result, Cruise has been shut down from operating, and the CEO resigned. Bottom line, there always be situations which have never been hard coded. There always are going to be software bugs each time there is an update. This is how it works. You always break a feature that was working perfectly before. As we progress, more and more features are going to be incorporated, but at the price of what we have already seen happening since the introduction of auto-pilots on cars. We are basically guinea pigs. Car makes are advertising auto-pilots as non autonomous, but it does not matter to some of the drivers. This is why I am happy with my driver's car; it has zero electronic features, no automatic gearbox, making it virtually impossible to drive while operating your phone. This is also my main argument on discussions about motorcyclists being reckless. I can't ride and text.

At first glance one might be dismissive … except for recalling an interesting conversation I had with a well known Guzzi guru in Australia more than 18 months ago about the future LeMans model where he wryly quipped, “You might be surprised… you might find it may be electric.” 😳

This is the reason we won't be buying any more new cars... I can't stand the crap they have on them now let alone this level of intrusion! Cheers Ps still reckon getting the idiots who just can't ride/drive off the roads is better than trying to dumb down everything so they can play too... There are buses and trains for these imbeciles! But there isn't a politician with a testicle to implement it... better to just preach about zero road tolls and looking like they give a shit

I think Teslas have their place like all EV's just not in my driveway. When owning a car or motorcycle for that matter becomes the same to me as my fridge, washing machine or vacuum cleaner then I'll be in the market for an EV. No automated system to date is perfect and requires human oversight. The 737 NG's I specialised in and did many, many cockpit hours in would at top of descent under autopilot control overspeed the aero six times out of ten unless the pilot intervened. The interface between the autopilot and auto throttle used to get it all wrong and it was never resolved to my knowledge. The Active cruise on my cars is the same, good but not perfect and require monitoring. The issue is the operators, the systems will never be perfect. The worlds been made so safe now all the stupid people aren't naturally culled from the herd anymore and end up taking out the smart people. The future looks promising Phil

Not sure if you wanted to go in different direction,but some time ago,I filed this info cc'd below,just in case I ever needed mirrors for my Lemans. I "think" the original info on the mirrors suitability,was from a link on this forum to a magazine article, "Moto Guzzi Sport 1100i Motorcycle Life" There were photos in the article, they looked nice,unfortunately they're imbedded images and I'm digitally challenged fwiw fyi Original mirrors are last century style, and have a nasty habit of folding when you ride fast (Easy to do on this bike) The solution was a set of aftermarket mirrors originally designed for Honda CBR600F4/VTR1000SP1. They fit perfectly when you rotate the mounting bracket 180 degrees – a five minute job. And even better – they are spaced a little wider, allowing you to see more than your own shoulders……

Ya bunch'a gearheads, ya . . .

Saw a vid of a Tesla hitting a deer, though it was a glancing blow on the mirror because the deer jumped back at the last second, the car made no change in speed or direction.

Reminds of thread that has been dormant for a while:

There are many bottomless rabbit holes you can go down;anything to do with energy,are always huge ones. History is nothing more,than lies agreed upon. Question Everything Friends