gstallons Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Don't worry about it . You WILL know a bad axle when you see it . Also , when you slide your hand up & down the axle shaft length (while wearing a brown jersey glove) and if you feel bad spots om the show up , replace it . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Yep, normal axle steps. I replaced my axle for that reason, but wasn't necessary . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 10 hours ago, docc said: I'm not sure my American English clearly translates that Australian English ? ? 6 hours ago, Lucky Phil said: It's Shakespeare docc. Phil Ah! ENGLISH English ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiomick Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 The only country that speaks better English than the English themselves is, of course, Australia. No accent, no dialect, no slang, just perfect unadulterated English. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstallons Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I hear ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Quote As I have said, the V11 has a busy rear axle. You haven't seen a busy rear axle until you pull the wheel off an early carb Sport.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 10 hours ago, guzziart said: Hi Phil, Your steel axle appears like the wheel bearing had spun on it....Is that normal? My rear axle looks like that, I can feel a slight steps/ridges on mine. I attribute the wear to the misplacement of the large washer that normally goes between the rear drive and swing arm being improperly placed between the wheel external drive splines & rear drive internal drive splines. Yep, you read that right. I'm just glad I caught it before it ruined the any splines since the washer only allowed partial spline engagement. Anyway, back to the "stepped" axle....to me, it obviously looks worn due to a bearing spin. I'd like to replace the axle if I come across a good used one but haven't been successful at that yet. Maybe i should get off my wallet and buy new, if available??!! Or if you're satisfied with your engineering and make a run of axles please place me on your list of potential buyers. Thoughts? Oh, my wheel bearings feel ok and I couldn't detect any unusual wear with the bearing i.d. Art PS - Nice job on the Ti axle! Here is an image of the "slight steps/ridges" of my original rear axle (left) and the same appearance of the new axle (right): 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Phil Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 11 hours ago, guzziart said: Hi Phil, Your steel axle appears like the wheel bearing had spun on it....Is that normal? My rear axle looks like that, I can feel a slight steps/ridges on mine. I attribute the wear to the misplacement of the large washer that normally goes between the rear drive and swing arm being improperly placed between the wheel external drive splines & rear drive internal drive splines. Yep, you read that right. I'm just glad I caught it before it ruined the any splines since the washer only allowed partial spline engagement. Anyway, back to the "stepped" axle....to me, it obviously looks worn due to a bearing spin. I'd like to replace the axle if I come across a good used one but haven't been successful at that yet. Maybe i should get off my wallet and buy new, if available??!! Or if you're satisfied with your engineering and make a run of axles please place me on your list of potential buyers. Thoughts? Oh, my wheel bearings feel ok and I couldn't detect any unusual wear with the bearing i.d. Art PS - Nice job on the Ti axle! As doccs image shows the steps are normal. Makes it easier to remove and install the axle. The steps are only .5mm on the dia where there is no interface with bearings. Phil. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 So, @Lucky Phil, aside from the lighter axle, the wheel change you had planned must be a pretty dramatic unsprung weight difference . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzler Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 8 hours ago, audiomick said: The only country that speaks better English than the English themselves is, of course, Australia. No accent, no dialect, no slang, just perfect unadulterated English. Kin oath.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Phil Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, docc said: So, @Lucky Phil, aside from the lighter axle, the wheel change you had planned must be a pretty dramatic un sprung weight difference . . . The new wheel is a 5.5 X 17 and fitted with a 180 tyre is around 6kg lighter lighter than the old 5.5 x 17 with a 170 tyre. That's with the hub drives and disks fitted. Then there is the axle and the brake bracket machining which was done for looks not weight saving. Then whatever is saved by machining off the bevel box flange maybe 150gms. 6kg is a decent weight saving swinging on the rear axle. I forgot to measure the weight saving on the front wheel and tyre assembly. Phil 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete roper Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Phil, while clearing out the shop I found that disassembled V11 bevelbox again. Are you still interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Phil Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, pete roper said: Phil, while clearing out the shop I found that disassembled V11 bevelbox again. Are you still interested? Yes please Pete, that would be great. I can pay for the shipping or a donation to MSF. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete roper Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Flick me your address again in a PM and I'll box it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Jaap Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 9 hours ago, Lucky Phil said: I had this done during my G&B Sport Monza build. Together with the light OZ wheel, it made quite a difference. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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