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a legacy of hammers. And mercury sticks . . .

The desert, the sky, the Scura, the Joshua tree . . . all in B&W! That ticks all the boxes!

00 Buck = "patina" . . . yeah, buddy!

The Wildebeest say, nay, not that (holiday) weekend. I may, still, plot an intercept course . . .

Since only the #1 ("Starter") relay uses both outputs (5-pin/ SPDT/ Form C), this is the Panasonic 5-pin the "1 FORM C" contact arrangement. [also known as a CO ("change over" contact arrangement) showing both NO and NC ratings] I'm trying to discern what part of the Panasonic relay is only rated for 10 amps continuous? edit: [Answer: the NC contact which would not be good for Relay#1 in the early V11.] Panasonic spec sheet:

MotoMuttonism on Memorial Day weekend! I will sound the alert to Team404 and lay in a course . . . What are the recommended accommodations for Saturday night?

http://www.shapeways.com/product/ABDSPQG9A/gambalunga-badges-both-no-steel Black and red nylon 3D prints designed by member sp838.

What are these costing these days? (Flat ones can be "shaped" . . .)

Still the chinese GEI?

My beloved GH8N OMRON relays appear to have come NLA. The spec sheet for the Panasonic states they are silver alloy contacts rated 10amps NC / 20amps NO for continuous current. So, that appears to be better contact material than the GEI. Doesn't Relay 5 operate continuously Normally Closed for the fuel pump, coils and injectors? [Answer: negative. ] ______________________________________________________________________________________ edit/ Correction : (thanks, Kiwi_Roy!): Relay#5 (Fuel Injection/pump) operates through the NO (Normally Open) contacts carrying some 22.5 amps.

I see the spec sheet offers the code breaker and the "2" indicates non-sealed. Form A is 4-pin, and Form C is 5-pin (SPDT) http://www.omron.com/ecb/products/pdf/en-g8hn.pdf

Just for the record, there have been as many V11 through Scud's Crucible that there were at the very first South'n Spine Raid in 2003. It's like a crop circle of it's very own . . .

It is not critical that they are sealed. you can always seal them yourself by running a bead of epoxy around the bottom of the case edge. brlawson is running the Panasonic, I believe (although Panasonic may have different products for this application?), yet no one has dismantled them and compared directly like Ryland3210 did to compare the GEI and OMRON. The Panasonic are physically smaller, which brlawson thought would dissipate heat better (not bad thinking!), but I wonder at the internal materials and structure . . . (unknown).

As many of you know, I am a fan of the OMRON relays for the V11. I found Ryland3210's evaluation compelling and have seen numerous (other) relay failures on V11 over the years. Yet, I'm afraid I keep posting a Digikey link for an part no longer available through them. I struggle with deciphering this part number: G8HN-1C2T-R DC12 --->EDIT (Mar 28 2018): Best (High Current) Relay, derived from this thread: Link to this post on page 5: http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19755&p=216605

More and more, I appreciate the elegance of the early Sport "below the triple" clip-ons . . .

Must be oldtimers.. I was thinking the Coppa was 05. Guess I was wrong. Even our own "breakdown of model year changes" thread says through 2005, and the Scura R 2005-2006. I could have my recomollection all sideways, but I don't recall anyone confirming a 10th digit in the VIN later than 2004. that's not to say some V11 may have been sold as 2005, but it seems they were out of production by then (?)

Sweet Eldo! The LeMans will be very happy at those speeds (and more! watch out!) The '03-'04 red or black are nice machines, the best sorted of the series. AFAIK, no 2005 V11 has ever been reported to exist. *Perhaps* the Scura R, but I'm not sure anyone has actually ever seen one and it, too, may have a 2004 VIN. Happy hunting! (Keep an eye on this thread: http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18375&page=19&do=findComment&comment=216130 )

I always step down my Sport battery into Swampee, the Cub Cadet, and get another 4 or 5 years from them. After getting the dedicated EnerSys charger last year, I'm expecting big things! Going to check my voltages now . . . see what needs charging.

. . . Yeah, I'd hate to lock this thread for lack of *credentials* . . . . Eldorado !

Crap. Mileage affects value?

+1 on Chuck"s post re: Battery Tenders and the Odyssey. Hawker (EnerSys/Odyssey) publishes very specific parameters for both charge and float voltage/amperage. They are adamant to charge when the battery drops to 12.65v (85%, valid at 77ºF/25ºC) using 6 amps or more. Odyssey PC545 Battery conditioning That said, isn't it stunning to find a functioning battery 15 years old?

You're in the right place, Paul! Two '02 LeMans recently changed hands that I know of below $4,000, but don't forget to think about shipping and things like replacing old tires.