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Some months ago…a request was made by footgoose for a photo of the three Tenni’s…..now the V11 is assembled…. Regards from tennitragic!

This is the second or third time I’ve heard of camchain/tensioner related failures on an MGX 21. First one I heard about belonged to the bloke who runs Wildguzzi. It I believe actually snapped a camchain somehow trashing one side of the motor. It was rebuilt and from memory did something very similar again shortly after. The story really frustrated me because ALL of the second generation Hi-Cam motors are essentiallt identical as far as the bits that spin and go up and down are concerned. The cooling system is plumbed very differently in the small port 1400 motors but the lubrication system, which includes both the cam chain tensioner feeds, the under piston cooling sprays and the cam, tappet and cam bearing feeds is all identical to the 1200’s and the MGS is the same, identical, to the other 1400’s which are all much of a muchness. Once the flat tappet fiasco was sorted out the motor was pretty much bulletproof. I’ve seen a few dropped valves but that is usually due to the valve timing being incorrect after rollerisation or lack of oil changes but other than that most problems are oil leaks and oil pressure and phase sensor failures. What made these MGX’s fail really frustrates me because nobody seemed willing to dig into it! Shops just seemed to shrug and either replace the motor or just push the bike into a corner and forget about it. Something like that would have driven me batty! Fixing it is the least of the problem if you don’t know why it failed in the first place! There is no point in just rebuilding something after it has blown up like that unless you work out why because, oddly enough, if you don’t, the chances are it will just do it again! I’d have had at it like a dog at a bone but alas I never had the chance. My best guess, and it really is a guess, is that there is some fault in the machining of the oil galleries in the crankcase in the rear wall of the timing chest. Unlike earlier motors the front main is a pressed in steel sleeve with a tri metal coating, it’s not designed to be replaced. I’m sure this system was adopted for cheapness of manufacture but the upshot is that oil delivery around that bearing to supply both it and the under piston sprays, the cam chain tensioner feeds and the front cam bearings and rocker/cambox feeds is done through a fairly complex system of drillings and machinings in the crankcase itself. The ‘Guess’ I’m making is that somehow or by something that main delivery gallery is somehow blocked or partially occluded preventing the tensioner plunger from priming properly and maybe starving the front cam bearing of oil and causing a potential cam seizure in the cambox. Sadly I’ll never get the chance to follow up on this hypothesis and nobody else is likely to want to so it will, no doubt, remain as one of those eternal mysteries that blacken the company’s name from time to time. As it is I was never a fan of the ‘Small Port’ motor anyway. Too smooth and it seemed to have moved away from the bare bones ‘Engineering Purity’ I see in the Big Port 1200’s. That’s just my own bias though. That and the fact I think the 1400’s are huge, under suspended, overweight, tubs of shite of course!

I did the GOM/GOA? stops yesterday, and literally froze myself on the trip back home.... I only checked the weather punctually, and did not anticipate the huge drop in temperature as the afternoon went on. I stopped a bit at Corpus Christi to observe the new bridge construction... impressive! The Quota fuel mileage is a lot better than that of the V11: 45 mpg! According to the triplog App, the total mileage was 443 miles. The gear lever issue was defintively solved; however, the connection to the Speedo/Odometer fell off. It unscrewed itself. I now understand why all the other connections had worm screw clamps on them...

Realy bad picture. Cheers Tom. Sent fra min SM-S906B via Tapatalk

I know that YT is full of these talented kids, one better than the next. I relate to that, because I tried to teach guitar to my son when he was 5 years old, and I could never get him interested, even if he did pretty well, as I was trying to get him to like it. I was in awe watching the little guy playing the drums in that humpteenth cover of the Deep Purple highway star...

@audiomick, @gstallons, you guys hijacking my titanium exhaust thread with your cool Pantera's and old Mustangs?! all i had was this boring Honda for groceries...

I'm pretty sure loctite only works between metal surfaces. The data sheet here appears to confirm that. From the product description https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/24239.pdf EDIT PS: further evidence that loctite doesn't cure against plastic is that the cap on the bottle never gets glued on like, for instance, the one on the super glue tube does.

I read just about every test I could find about that car when it came out. It was developed and released during the time when Honda was, to use the words of a motoring journalist that I read once, "showing the world how to build motors" by their dominance in Forumla 1. The tests of the NSX that I read were all more than positive. And it was pretty...

About 25 years ago Pete a mate of mine worked for the Australian Ducati importer and they had a SS in the workshop that on pre delivery wouldn't extinguish the LOP light. They pulled it down until they found that one of the crankcase galleries hadn't been drilled all the way through. They finished drilling it and replace the big end bearing which were actually fine but did it anyway and put it back together. That Ducati went all the way through post assembly testing and running and the engine on the Electric back drive rigs Ducati used in the day for 20 min before installing in a chassis with no oil pressure. The very same friend when he worked in Warranty for a large Japanese importer was also involved in an Australia wide recall along with a team from the factory in Japan for incompletely drilled oil galleries in the heads of one of their 250cc 4 stroke dirt bikes of the day. Un crate the bike, pull the head check for damage and replace with a new head if damage found or finish drilling the gallery and re assemble and re crate. The team went round Australia pulling new bikes apart for a month or so. I've got quite a few of these anecdotes after years of knowing people at importer level for several makes, lol. Broken drill bits on computerised machining stations is the usual reason. So your hypothesis may well be true or at least worth investigating at the time. Phil

An often overlooked defect with regards to steering issues is wheel bearing condition. To check the front wheel bearings you need to get the weight off the front wheel and remove both brake callipers so you can check for movement at the rim without any incumbrancers. I had a Ducati ST2 that steered really badly and attributed it to a worn front tyre but it was shot front wheel bearings. Phil

It's a race exhaust header setup Scudd. Fast removal and install fitment and some latitude in fitment. Looks cool on a road bike. Phil

I always start the V100S in first gear to avoid the horse kicking. Cheers Tom.

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You said you did not check this when it came back from the service center? We have no way to know if it was tight or not? Get it about as snug as you would reseal a 2 liter soda. Put a dob of yellow paint pencil on it and run it a while and see what happens. I can't see what the hose clamp is doing so I can't comment on it.

Not in a million years. If that retaining nut is working loose all the time then there is an issue with the threads on the nut. It shouldn't need any thread locker at all. Your set up looks a bit of a lash up with the screw clamp, obviously not standard. Phil

Art it is . Cheers Tom.

If you claim that it is art, then no-one will criticise it. In fact, I rather like photos that are taken into the light.

No measurement, looks the same. Black colored, looks different, sure the same. Cheers Tom. Sent fra min SM-S906B via Tapatalk

The little dude is tireless and shows some real soul in his playing. Best for all of them that he keeps his time locked with the bass. I've played with some drummers that wouldn't lock-on. After a while, everyone just packs up and goes home. In all honesty, though, our bass player is just not that cute.

Yes, he is very good. And not just bashing away, he is focussed on the bass player, and she is doing a pretty flash job of it too, I reckon. What say you @docc

Maybe not. The parts lists at Wendel in Berlin show a change in the part number, at least for the "stick", around 2002. Subsequent lists refer to "Seitenständer V11 neu", i.e. "sidestand V11 new". The first version, part no. GU02432100 https://wendelmotorraeder.de/fussrasten-v11-sportmandello-99-01-ex-30_3006_300602_30060201_3006020110_300602011003.html https://wendelmotorraeder.de/fussrasten-v11-nakedle-manns-01-02-ex-30_3006_300602_30060202_3006020210_300602021003.html and the new version, part no. GU01432190 https://wendelmotorraeder.de/fussrasten-staender-v11-02-le-mansskura-ex-30_3006_300602_30060203_3006020310_300602031003.html https://wendelmotorraeder.de/fussrasten-staender-v11-03-04-corsa-ex-30_3006_300602_30060204_3006020410_300602041003.html https://wendelmotorraeder.de/fussrasten-staender-v11-03-05-cafballabio-ex-30_3006_300602_30060205_3006020510_300602051003.html However it seems that the new version might fit on the earlier models. Stein-Dinse only lists the newer part number. There is a comment in the list and in the listing in their shop "Nachfolgeprodukt für Artikel: 02432100", i.e. "replacement product for article: 02432100" https://www.stein-dinse.com/de/moto-guzzi-seitenstaender-v11-le-mans-naked-ballabio/item-2-1020771-01432190-.html and under "Geeignet für" i.e. "suitable for" they list pretty much all the V11 Models. The thlot pickens....

No , it doesn't look cool. It looks righteous !

was that car that righteous ?

Yes, very boring. Wouldn't want one of them at all. For sure. Really. Not jealous at all.

Yes. My Z900 did that, as did my GTR 1000 and the Honda CBX 650 E. The Suzuki GSX 1100 motor was particularly good at it.

I remember taking a mates 1700 Kawasaki cruiser for a spin a few years ago and being a bit intimidated at the size of the bloody thing at first.Then when I wobbled outa the driveway looking for the footpegs behind me...It must have been a sight. I did get the hang of it after a few minutes acclimatisation but they're definitely not my cup o Darjeeling! Another thing was how such a big motor could feel like a bloody 250.....Any trace of character completely removed! Cheers

Coincidentally, I rode a new Stelvio with PFF yesterday. I put about 30 miles on it, 60 mph down to stop and go traffic. Some 40 mph twisties too. I came back to the dealer and put a deposit on it, told him I would like to sleep on it. I took my 2012 Stelvio for a ride this morning. I'm going to call him up now to tell him I changed my mind. The new one is a great bike, but I feel that it lost some of its soul with throttle by wire and water cooling. Plus the tach is so small on the screen that I have to take an extra second to read it. The drop into first is so aggressive it feels like you got tapped from the rear. It is lighter though, and feels nice at slow speeds, except the throttle is jerky at its lower settings. I'll pass for now. I like mine better. It is the last one on the floor until new 25's come in August.

i rented one of those large guzzi’s down near Joshua Tree a few years back, for a couple days of touring the park and other areas up north of there. I enjoyed it, preferring it over the Harleys i had way back. that said, they all fall into the same problematic category for me: they are the best type of bikes for cruising down the big highways, which is exactly where i do NOT want to be on a bike, except to connect to other non-highway roads.

Was gonna sell the BMW GSA, but I hate leaving the dog while touring and then, well

Quite a few members of the German forum keep a sidecar for the winter. Favourite choice seems to be a Ural, with which the concerns about the frame not holding up to it are a non-issue because they are built as a sidecar. On a completely different note, one that I haven't seen other than on photos but would like to, and would like to ride: It was built by the bloke in the second picture, a fellow administrator of the German forum that I am active in. To put it into perspective, Holger is about 5'4" tall. The motor is from an 1100 California, with a Doc Jensen cam and a bit of tweaking. The really impressive bit: at first glance, or on the photos, you don't notice any lights apart from the headlight, but the thing is road-legal and registered. That, in Germany, is quite an acheivment.

Having owned a Pacific Coast, I would venture that rode and handled well, made decent power, and hid its V-twin like a drug habit. The trunk made it a great grocery-getter. One of the biggest differences with the V11 Sport is getting groceries on it takes me four hours.

"It never needed any work and had things like self cancelling turn signals, hydraulically adjusted valves, and a big trunk to carry things. If the Guzzi is even close to as enjoyable I'll like it a lot." Ruht Roh, Rhaggy

Bikes I've owned so far: '66 Suzuki 250 Hustler 2 stroke '71 Ducati 450 Desmo single - Dunstall exhaust '74 Honda 550 4 cylinder with Kerker exhaust, TT100's '77 Yamaha 750 triple '84 Kawi 1100 '89 Honda Pacific Coast '98 Triumph Trophy 900 2005 Yami FZ1 2009 Yami FZ6 2003 Guzzi V11 Sport. There is a very big difference between bikes for sure. Favorite would be the Honda Pacific Coast. 47 h.p., 630 lbs. It never needed any work and had things like self cancelling turn signals, hydraulically adjusted valves, and a big trunk to carry things. If the Guzzi is even close to as enjoyable I'll like it a lot. Grant

Say Grant, isn't that the coolest thing about motorcycles, that they all have their own personalities no matter what it might be.

At 3:30: "DID YOU HEAR THAT ?" She said, "There's one thing you gotta learn. Is not to be afraid of it." I said, "No I like it, I like it. It's good." She said, "You like it now, but you'll learn to love it later."

I bought the bike that started this thread. It was REALLY heavy to move around when I got it but adding a little air to the 6 psi tires fixed that up. Oil change got done right away. A new battery was installed with purchase. There are oil drips (not up to leaks yet) from the bottom pan and the front pan (I'm not sure what's behind it yet) gaskets. I started with cleaning the old oil off just to see what was there. I added a Puig universal wind screen for good wind protection. I'm part way through painting covers red to match the tank. New paint is red with silver sparkle underneath. By the time it's done I expect it will look great (to me any ways). There is no stuttering or anything suggesting air getting into the fuel delivery system. Noises are typical for a tractor ;-). The speedo works well. I haven't owned a bike with a Veglia since the '71 Ducati Desmo 450 single I had. The glitter silver was tempting for the Guzzi paint. I thought glitter purple would be too much. In the end I stayed with the deep red. I rode a Yami 600 last year which redlines at 14k. It was always spinning at high revs. The Goose doesn't need to rev at all but likes 5 grand better than 4. 90 miles an hour isn't work for this bike. Suspension is stiff but the bike settles down right away after bumps and feels glued to the road. Tires are from '21 but only have a couple hundred miles on them. They aren't sliding at the speeds I ride at. Plans this year include finishing paint more, checking valves, and changing most oils. A gasket or 2 might get replaced as well. Within 10 minutes I get to some of the nicest riding roads in my area. There is a 60 mile loop that has almost no straight road in it. Bush all around. Gravel on the road at times because of people that go off the pavement so isn't for knee draggers but always entertaining. A ride earlier in the year had deer making me slow down in 2 places. Keep the rubber side down. Grant.

It really is a pain as that part of the rev range is the ‘cruising’ section. And also around-town-manoeuvring. Forgive me if this is being thick, but is this all tied to the tps base setting? I’m wondering if I got around the issue a few years back by setting the tps base setting a bit lower, or higher, than 157mv

Fella in our small riding group picked up an MGX a couple years ago after a protracted search for a clean low mileage unit Cam chain tensioner failed,lunched the motor ,close to home thankfully Last I heard sitting under a cover in the back of his garage